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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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dave, im in tennessee, but youre not too far from where i used to do a lot of work. my last job had me all over wv and i spent a few months in parkersburg. that f-5 that i saw was actually in wv down around glenville. i was going to stop and look at it the next time i was up there, but it was gone by the next week.

if i got an old one and fixed it up, i would keep it as long as it ran. so i wouldnt be worried about it as far as resell value. i would just like to be able to own a 50's model instead of a 90's. i own a 53 f-600 sounds a lot better than i own a 95 f-350 with an old cab.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
dave, im in tennessee, but youre not too far from where i used to do a lot of work. my last job had me all over wv and i spent a few months in parkersburg. that f-5 that i saw was actually in wv down around glenville. i was going to stop and look at it the next time i was up there, but it was gone by the next week.

if i got an old one and fixed it up, i would keep it as long as it ran. so i wouldnt be worried about it as far as resell value. i would just like to be able to own a 50's model instead of a 90's. i own a 53 f-600 sounds a lot better than i own a 95 f-350 with an old cab.
I think I know the truck you are talking about. Was it a dump truck? If so, it was moved to another guy's place and I think you can still get it if they haven't scrapped it. there is no title to it. The one I am taliking about has a 6 cyl. Cnevy engine in it for some reason. If I can find it, I had pictures of it in an old post here.

Here is a link to the guy's gallery that had the Explorer trhat he used the floor pan and firewall from.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=27585

And here is a link to the post I did with the pictures of that truck. Is it the same one???

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-f-5-dump.html



Later man...
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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no, thats not the same one. the one i saw was black and had a flat bed on it. it was a really nice one and was in good running condition. no rust on it or anything.

that guys 56 is nice. i just wonder if i would be able to fit a 50's cab on an f-350 chassis after seeing his pics. it was a tight squeeze on the explorer, and a 350 is a lot wider than an explorer.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
i own a 53 f-600 sounds a lot better than i own a 95 f-350 with an old cab.
Hey, who gives a hoot about what the paper work says, you can call it anything you want. As a matter of fact, why give a hoot about what the rest think??? I never did and it hasn't been a problem yet.

BTW, Nobody is going to know what chassis is under it because most people including those that fancy themselves as car and truck people wouldn't know it if you showed them. Those who do know won't criticize you because they can appreciate the work you did.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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The cabs are the same on all the sizes of trucks. the front fenders are different. An F-5/6 would be comparable to a F-350, but a new super duty is nothing near as stout as the F-7/8 Big Jobs. Personally, you can go whichever route you choose to go. If you have the patience for wiring puzzles, go PSD. If not, go early Cummins with mechanical injection. The Cummins WILL fit into an early frame, and you WILL need to make motor mounts. You can box the early frame, and it will be every bit as strong as needed to hold the weight of the diesel, and going the route of a Cummins, would make it possible to retain the stock steering column and box. You're far from the first person to want and go diesel on an early truck like this. There are many of us that have diesels in our rigs already, and can help you with a lot of your questions. You need to think about what you really want out of the truck before you commit to building something that will take forever to finsih, if you even decide to finsih it after you get started. A plan you come up with may dictate which year of early truck you use, and even which chassis and engine from a newer one you use.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
no, thats not the same one. the one i saw was black and had a flat bed on it. it was a really nice one and was in good running condition. no rust on it or anything.

that guys 56 is nice. i just wonder if i would be able to fit a 50's cab on an f-350 chassis after seeing his pics. it was a tight squeeze on the explorer, and a 350 is a lot wider than an explorer.
That is true but I think it can be worked out. I just threw that in to give you an idea. You would have to extensively modify the side coweling and extend it out right under the front fender skin as opposed to how it is pulled in quite a bit in the stock design. You could use any of the cabs from F-1 on up so long as you have the bigger truck front fenders to extend out over the wider tracking width. BTW, I think that red truck could be had for $300.00. Moving it would be the big expense.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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The cabs are the same on all the sizes of trucks. the front fenders are different. An F-5/6 would be comparable to a F-350, but a new super duty is nothing near as stout as the F-7/8 Big Jobs. Personally, you can go whichever route you choose to go. If you have the patience for wiring puzzles, go PSD. If not, go early Cummins with mechanical injection. The Cummins WILL fit into an early frame, and you WILL need to make motor mounts. You can box the early frame, and it will be every bit as strong as needed to hold the weight of the diesel, and going the route of a Cummins, would make it possible to retain the stock steering column and box. You're far from the first person to want and go diesel on an early truck like this. There are many of us that have diesels in our rigs already, and can help you with a lot of your questions. You need to think about what you really want out of the truck before you commit to building something that will take forever to finsih, if you even decide to finsih it after you get started. A plan you come up with may dictate which year of early truck you use, and even which chassis and engine from a newer one you use.

Joe makes a lot of good points here. Again it really depends on what you want and how much extra weight you want to drag down the road. Considering you mentioned a pick-up type bed on this thing I can't imagine you would want it to be heavier duty that a modern F-350. Why make it more expensive to operate than it needs to be. Also having a workable plan before you start is a real good idea. I usually don't start until I have collected all the stuff I want to use. Of course there are some things you know you can get anytime but the big stuff is harder to get. I have collected enough stuff to go several different ways with my project. I have so much collected now that I might be able to build two or three trucks. If I don't I can sell the stuff.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wmjoe1953
You need to think about what you really want out of the truck before you commit to building something that will take forever to finsih, if you even decide to finsih it after you get started. A plan you come up with may dictate which year of early truck you use, and even which chassis and engine from a newer one you use.
thats why im asking as many questions as i can. i dont want to get into this and get halfway done with it only to realize that what i want to do cant be done. or requires more skill than i have. i would much rather go with my 2nd choice of truck and engine and be able to finish it than to try for my first choice and have it sitting in the garage for 10 years. my first choice for the truck would be to have an f-7 or 8. the year doesnt matter that much though. but from the sounds of it the 53-56 would be a better choice for putting the diesel in. its just a matter of if i want an f-7/8 with a cummins on the original chassis or an f-5 or so on an f-super duty chassis with the psd. i realize either way this is going to be a big time job and thats why im going to be bugging you all for the next year or so until im ready to buy one lol.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dave boley
Considering you mentioned a pick-up type bed on this thing I can't imagine you would want it to be heavier duty that a modern F-350. Why make it more expensive to operate than it needs to be.

Later Guys...
well, the bed would be mostly for looks. like the guys that put a regular bed on the new f-650's. realistically though, the most logical thing to do would be to shoot for something in the f-5 or 6 range. as much as id like to say i can haul my house, the chances of me towing 35k lbs and needing a mini semi are pretty slim lol. ill definately be browsing the forum and asking lots of questions until i figure out what to do. i know a lot of groups dont like "trolls", but id rather browse around and get answers first rather than buy something i cant feasibly do and be stuck with it. so hope you guys dont mind a non owner hanging out for a while.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
ill definately be browsing the forum and asking lots of questions until i figure out what to do. i know a lot of groups dont like "trolls", but id rather browse around and get answers first rather than buy something i cant feasibly do and be stuck with it. so hope you guys dont mind a non owner hanging out for a while.
I know I can't speak for everyone here but I for one don't mind what you are doing. It only makes good sense to plan ahead and a good part of that is getting the right information.

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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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I agree with dave. This is why I say plan, and make plans, and run them by us. We have likely got some one here that's been there. I have an extra set of Big Job 53-56 fenders, if you can find a 53-56 in need of something, get it. The 53-56 will easily transfer to most any 34" wide frame. That's what I did for my F-800. You can get a single axle tractor or dump truck from the 70's with out too much money. I paid $1000 for my 74 LT-8000 and they delivered it 25+ miles. Search around. If you go with a single axle tractor, you can adapt a pick up box to it. There are several of the F-650, Kodiak, and International trucks like that running around here in central Oregon. You have the idea, and you know what you would like, so now you need to fine tune the idea and start searching. It took me 18 months of searching and measuring and researching to find the right chassis for my project. It's often easier to put your body onto another frame than it is to put an engine in a frame not strong enough to hold it. Go do some searching. You'ld be surprised how cheap you could pick up an outdated semi from some of these construction companies.
 
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