Thank you for the link, I'm going to print the info and ask the guy who set my diffs up if he's got this info, if not I'm going to have to find someone else to double check my set up now, like I said I just don't want any thing to go wrong with that big of a tire and I would rather be to cautious than to destroy my newly rebuilt diffs.

 

are you going to be putting 46's on your dana 44 and 8.8? or did I miss something here?

 

NO!, I guess I should have let you know that I went with heavier and stronger axels, A 60 rear and a SAS with a 44 up front with three quarter ton outers, The 44 has Moser Shafts and CTM u joints, I have a garantee in wrighting from both companies will stand behind thier product and replace any breakage for free, I couldn't find a 60 Front up here in the back woods of Mich. I definatly would have rather went that route, but I guess with written garantees I had to try the lighter axel, I think that I'll be alright as long as I don'y stand on it with the front on solid ground and the rear in the mud or viseversa, moser said that if thier shafts break twice they would buy me a new Dynatrac 60 with my choice of carrier and gears for free, so if they are going to stand behind thier product like that I'll give it a try, Besides I had trouble with breaking shafts with my TTB running 35's in mud compititions in a 150 ft. pit. I switched to the SAS and 60 when I did the second build up with the 39.5 swampers, about 4 years ago.

 

If it helps settle some discussions I have a 95 F150, 8.8 rear, D44 solid front, E40D, 351 and 37 inch (36.8 exact depending on pressure) goodyears. I just swapped out gears for the lugging, loss of power, and to hopefully be nice to my tranny in her older years. I was hoping for a few more mpgs but have not seen em yet. Anyway back to the reason for the reply. I had 3.55s with above set up and ran 1200-1300 rpm in OD at 65-7- mph, out of OD it was 1500-1600. I went with 4.56 and now run 1900-2000 in OD and 2300-2400 out. I love it like a new truck power wise and acceleration. It is actually kinda quick now too. I had to be killing my tranny and motor all this time should have done it long ago. I had to switch front carrier and not the rear.

 

blueox I hope you have that in writing and noterized because I find it hard to beleive moser will back any warrentee like that.

you still are running 46" tires on a half ton front axle. regardless of the bigger brakes on the 3/4 ton outters. Even for the front dana 60. 46's are really pushing that beyond the limits of reliability.

 

Written by my layer sent to them noterized and sent back, I covered all the bases because I had the same thought , Thats why I had my Layer draw up the statement just so that I didn't screw it up by not including some legalease, any way thank you for your concern, you show the same apprehension that I did The catch is that I have to run a MOSER ENGINEERING sticker on my truck and have to send photos, and possibly the parts to them for inspection. All in all my attorney says that it is binding. It had better be this contract cost me $500. to draw up, there was no hesitation at all from Moser, they had the document signed noterized with a letter of witness written by the Notery sent back to me in three days.

 

$500 for a written warrenty from Moser? Do you realize how thin your front axle tubes are? I hope your planning on a truss. I don't think the shafts or u-joints are going to be the first parts to fail...not much you can do about the knuckles. I woulda put the $500 in a D60 (or better towards rockwells which you can get cheaper) but to each their own. Hope that works out for you with the claws.

 

Wow! I'm sure all the guys over at Pirate would like to know about that smokin warranty from Moser seeing how they break those axles a few times a season. Tell you what, give me that D44 and about 5 minutes so I can snap it in half for you. Then you can send it to Moser and get your $1500-$2000 Dynatrac D60. This is not even to mention the thin tubes or weak knuckles. How is it you can for over $500 for a contract plus the money for those shafts and CTM's but you can't afford a D60 shipped to your door? Woah! I've got to go check the firewall on my PC because my BS alert just went off.

 

a dynatrac 60 is not going to be even close to 2grand. more than 5 last time I looked!

 

that's bullsiht! WOW that's the biggest load i have ever heard from here!

if that were true then why is everyone going to D60 fronts?



if you look closely at my buddies truck you will notice that his front knuckles are busted in half running 40" ground hawgs. he is running a heavy duty D44 front and it's not locked. tell me how in the hell you are gonna keep an axle under your truck with 46's??!?!!

-cutts-

 

First off the $500. was just for the 1 hour that it took my layer to draw up the paper work, second off it's not that hard to keek a relitivly light axel alive with large tires in mud if you use the skinny pedal wisley and conservativly, third , I'm not running huge horse power like I'm sure your friend in the picture is, Mt 300 inline is only mildly built and I depend on my gears to get momentum, with 6;78 gears I don't absolutly need all of that horsepower, don't get me wrong I would love to have a huge power building big block, but with all the use and abuse my truck has seen I just don't feel that a half ton frame with all the lift and tire that I have under it would stand up to the power. Right now I'm trying to convince a buddy of mine to help build a new frame for it in the next couple of years, then maybe I can get the big power in this truck without twisting it in half. As for my not being able to find a 60 in Mich I was refering to a complete 60 within driving distance of me, I had looked for a year and a half and couldn't find one around the Detroit area, I guess they are just more plentiful in the south.

 

not to single you out or anything but where did you find 6.78:1 ratio gears for a the reverse cut Dana 44?

oh and no matter what gears your going to run you are going to put an outragious amount of stress on those tiny dana 44 shafts. no matter how small your engine is or how light your vechile it.

Can you post a copy of this contract? I would really like to see it.

 

I would imagine that if the shafts and U-joints are covered by such a warranty, the housing or knuckles breaking and taking the shafts with them wouldnt be covered. Thats why they want the right to inspect the broken parts- to determine how they broke. I agree that the whole think sounds a bit unbelievable too.

 

I have called your bluff, I do not like seeing BS like that. I have E-mailed moser to get their response on this.

 

Soo apparently you don't understand that you'll still be applying a HUGE amount of torque to these axles due to the LOW gears you supposedly have with such large tires. Apparently you also don't undestand that the breakage in the picture posted by fishy had NOTHING to do with horsepower but rather the amount of leverage a large tires places on the knuckles of the axle. Here's a little piece of info for you which you can take to another forum and troll there if you like: When an axle shaft breaks on a front axle (the part you supposedly bought from Moser) wheels don't fall off. It just won't turn anymore. But hey, since you feel like dumping all this $$ into a 1/2 ton D44 why not just get Dedenbear C's and knuckles? I'm sure for another $500 you can get them to sign a contract saying they'll buy you a new mansion if you break your axle.

Btw, good to see you here welndmn.