Notices
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator 1991-1994, 1995-2001, 2002-2005, 2006-2010 Ford Explorer

Not another towing question!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 05:24 AM
  #1  
boss429kiwi's Avatar
boss429kiwi
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Not another towing question!!!

Sorry but I have to ask, even though I am sure it has been talked about many times.

I have a 2002 V8 Explorer with a factory 3500kg (approx) 7000lb tow hitch. I plan to use the Explorer to tow my enclosed car transporter and very expensive payload, totaling approx 3200kg (approx 6400lb).

What are your thoughts? How would it perform? Should I use load levelers?

Trailer has electric brakes.

Thanks
Gary
New Zealand
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:28 AM
  #2  
Steina's Avatar
Steina
CO River Rat
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,209
Likes: 0
From: Lake Havasu City AZ
Club FTE Silver Member

Tow ratings are established with a 150# driver, 1/2 tank of gas and no accessories, plus you're looking at 640-960# tongue weight (10-15%). Based on your "very expensive payload" comment, I'd say you need a tow vehicle with more capacity - JMHO.

Steve
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:39 AM
  #3  
boss429kiwi's Avatar
boss429kiwi
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Steina
Tow ratings are established with a 150# driver, 1/2 tank of gas and no accessories, plus you're looking at 640-960# tongue weight (10-15%). Based on your "very expensive payload" comment, I'd say you need a tow vehicle with more capacity - JMHO.

Steve
Well this confuses me.
Why would Ford state that their 2002 Explorer V8 can tow 3500kg (7000+ lb) and have a heavy duty tow hitch to suit? If it cannot tow this weight safely? Wouldn't they under rate their towing weights for safety reasons?

Oh well!
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:48 AM
  #4  
Steina's Avatar
Steina
CO River Rat
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,209
Likes: 0
From: Lake Havasu City AZ
Club FTE Silver Member

I like to use no more than 80% of a vehicle's tow capacity for safety reasons, but that's me. Are you gonna have gear/passengers in that Explorer? How sure are you of that 6400# figure? If you're guessing, you may find after weighing that it's more. You'll probably need a weight distribution system with that much tongue weight. CAN it tow 7000#+ weight? Sure. Would I push the limit with a "very expensive payload" involved? Nope.

Steve
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2008 | 12:13 AM
  #5  
roadrunner_sf's Avatar
roadrunner_sf
New User
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Gary,

Small world, I know a guy named John who might be the one that sold you that payload. He sold a car that went overseas, but I can't remember if it was NZ or Australia. I've seen a YouTube video of the car.... sounded great.

I'm in the same boat - setting up an '02 Mountaineer to tow a tandem axle car trailer. My trailer is an open. (Current tow vehicle is a full sized '89 Ford Bronco)

You *MUST* use a weight distributing hitch that is professionally setup for your tow vehicle & trailer. Get a pro to do the setup, otherwise it is not worth it. Roughly 9 out of 10 of the rigs going down the road with a weight distributing hitch are not setup correctly. Setup is specific to the tow vehicle and trailer.

Without this hitch, your tow capacity is down to 3500 lbs (that is not kg...).

Also, as previously mentioned, be very certain about your weights. Enclosed trailers are much heavier than an open trailer and leaving yourself a margin of safety with respect to total capacity is very important as well.

Good luck, Steve
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:13 AM
  #6  
gpyles01's Avatar
gpyles01
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Well from a legal standpoint i would say if ford says u can tow it!(and i will give my reasons further on in this post).. i think you can tow it and should tow it!.. Do as Roadrunner_sf said above and make sure your set-up as correct so that no blame will fall on your shoulders should you incur some complications.. If Ford Motor Company says you can tow it I would think that their tow ratings are underrated so that if something should happen the blame cannot fall on them.. They took a huge hit with the tire incidents a few years back and i'm sure they dont want any further problems..

My suggestion..make sure your well equipped to tow your trailer and take precautions while doing so.. If something should go wrong.. atleast your not to blame!

Just my 2 cents!
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:27 AM
  #7  
CobraXP's Avatar
CobraXP
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,123
Likes: 2
From: Fort Smith
Club FTE Gold Member
How far and what road conditions? Flat ground or a lot of hills, etc?

For general pulling and not long haul (1,000 miles+), I would not have a problem pulling what you are talking about. I would probably use some type of load levelers whether it be airbags, air shocks, etc. I might also add an extra tranny cooler as this would be where I would look to more than anything else. I've pulled things heavier than that with my 97, but not for extended times (500 miles or less). I've also pulled a car trailer with a friend's $100,000+ drag car to Las Vegas a few times - and by the time we load up with everyhting, we are around yor weight if not more. I don't worry any when doing it, but I just keep an eye on temps, etc, and use common sense.

Will your Explorer do it? Sure. It is just doing it for extended times and conditions you have to think about the wear and tear on the stressed parts of towing.
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 02:46 PM
  #8  
boss429kiwi's Avatar
boss429kiwi
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by roadrunner_sf
Gary,

Small world, I know a guy named John who might be the one that sold you that payload. He sold a car that went overseas, but I can't remember if it was NZ or Australia. I've seen a YouTube video of the car.... sounded great.

I'm in the same boat - setting up an '02 Mountaineer to tow a tandem axle car trailer. My trailer is an open. (Current tow vehicle is a full sized '89 Ford Bronco)

You *MUST* use a weight distributing hitch that is professionally setup for your tow vehicle & trailer. Get a pro to do the setup, otherwise it is not worth it. Roughly 9 out of 10 of the rigs going down the road with a weight distributing hitch are not setup correctly. Setup is specific to the tow vehicle and trailer.

Without this hitch, your tow capacity is down to 3500 lbs (that is not kg...).

Also, as previously mentioned, be very certain about your weights. Enclosed trailers are much heavier than an open trailer and leaving yourself a margin of safety with respect to total capacity is very important as well.

Good luck, Steve
Hi Steve

Thanks for the reply. My Boss 429 came from the US to NZ, many years ago. Yes, its the Calypso Coral 1970 Boss 429 on youtube with my wife giving a presentation

Cheers
Gary
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:20 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE