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Cargo Master
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From: Cook Forest and Irwin PA
them is ball joints. the 80-81 used a kingpin setup in the front. 2 of them in fact depending on manual or power brakes.
I actually would rather have your setup - at least I can find sway bar mounts for them
I actually would rather have your setup - at least I can find sway bar mounts for them
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Tuned
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From: Wiltshire, United Kingdom
Ok cool.
so......I order I beams for a '83 F150? Am SO confused now about my truck!
i still don't get the power brakes thing. By that do you mean Servo (brake booster) assisted?
so......I order I beams for a '83 F150? Am SO confused now about my truck!
i still don't get the power brakes thing. By that do you mean Servo (brake booster) assisted?
Cargo Master
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From: Cook Forest and Irwin PA
yes, power brakes means some kind of assist - be it vacuum motor or hydraulic.
I still dont know what the beams are...is it something that lets the balljoints ride higher so the truck is lower?
in any case - you can order whatever you want. the front springs and the radius arms are same 100/150 so if these things will be contained by the radius arms, bolt to the pivot point, and let the springs mount - it has to work. and if you get the year right (even if yours is not an 83, you do not have the 80-81 kingpin setup so you are in the clear until 87 I think)
I still dont know what the beams are...is it something that lets the balljoints ride higher so the truck is lower?
in any case - you can order whatever you want. the front springs and the radius arms are same 100/150 so if these things will be contained by the radius arms, bolt to the pivot point, and let the springs mount - it has to work. and if you get the year right (even if yours is not an 83, you do not have the 80-81 kingpin setup so you are in the clear until 87 I think)
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Tuned
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Having seen a pic of a truck with no servo (vacuum assist) while wandering around the forum I guess I can conclude that I have power brakes. If it didn't have power brakes what would it have? If it has 2 ball joints then is it possible to create some kind of camber adjustment?
Cargo Master
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Having seen a pic of a truck with no servo (vacuum assist) while wandering around the forum I guess I can conclude that I have power brakes. If it didn't have power brakes what would it have? If it has 2 ball joints then is it possible to create some kind of camber adjustment?
As for your camber adjustment, when the upper ball joint comes out, there is a bushing in there that can go one of two ways for a teeny bit of adjustment. someone once posted a pic here of a bushing that had about 6-8 settings, but I dunno where to order it from.
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Tuned
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I can't believe some vehicles this big have unassisted brakes! Scarey enough in our little '60's tin!
Damn damn damn I need some lowering I beams, and springs. NOW! Can get around the camber somehow.
The shipping quote I got was on a set of beams that were for kingpin fitment. Now I can't find any at all on the evilbay.
Damn damn damn I need some lowering I beams, and springs. NOW! Can get around the camber somehow.
The shipping quote I got was on a set of beams that were for kingpin fitment. Now I can't find any at all on the evilbay.
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Tuned
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From: Wiltshire, United Kingdom
Did you mean these?
http://www.truckinsuspension.com/pro...oducts_id=5443
I appreciate they aren't the year for me but I do get a little confused (no surprise!) over how late on you can go with some things, I have read as late as '96 some things are compatible?
http://www.truckinsuspension.com/pro...oducts_id=5443
I appreciate they aren't the year for me but I do get a little confused (no surprise!) over how late on you can go with some things, I have read as late as '96 some things are compatible?
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Why not a Jag front end out of an XJ6 (pref Series III), you've got tonnes of the things over there. It might cost you less to get and fit a jag front then buy and ship i beams. Maybe you could use the rear too? Then you can buy Jag wheels instead of more expensive stuff to fit these buggers.
I'm throwing a Jag front end in mine, measured it up and it'll fit fine!
I'm throwing a Jag front end in mine, measured it up and it'll fit fine!
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Tuned
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I admit that you did get me thinking after I saw yours posted. I have also found somewhere that does Mustang II front conversions so have lodged a query with them for a price comparison.
Post Fiend
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Forged front twin-I-Beams (AKA: axles) use King Pins (AKA: Spindle Pins).
Stamped Twin-I-Beams use ball joints.
Some parts places will ask if the truck has Stamped, or Forged axles, that is the reason why above.
As was stated earlier, those are stamped axles with ball joints.
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