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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Hey guys...wondering if you had any ideas to throw at this. About 4 or 5 months ago I had to put new brake shoes on my rear drums on my 2004 ranger 4x4. I have had a problem since the truck was about a year old that when it gets damp or cold that the rear brakes would stick if I set the parking brake and then one day as I was rocking the truck to get the rear brakes to release, it shucked all the friction material off the drivers side shoes. I know that the cables release but the shoes stick.

Then about 2 weeks ago my rear brakes start sticking really bad again. Mostly holding the truck from wanting to go forward but it would roll backwards really easily. Yesterday I pull the drums back off and discover that the inside parts are heavily corroded and the adjuster cable had snapped. I got a rebuild kit and replaces the adjuster cable, adjuster, moisture plug, and adjuster cable guide.

Anybody have any ideas why I would have so much corrosion in the drivers side drum and not in the passenger side?

Thanks for your help.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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park the other way round ? just kidding lol. seriously i think this is a ranger thing. mine do this routinely + try to lock up until i use the brakes a few times in the morning. then it seems to clear up. i have stopped setting the parking brake when i leave it. i don't see any way around the problem except to change out to a disc brake system.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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During a normal drive, my driver's rear drum heats up to 180+ degrees, while the passenger side is a nice 110 degrees.. sure wish I could get the drum off to see what's going on in there..

After the truck sits a while, the rear brakes prevent the truck from moving until you break 'em free..

Sorry I can't offer much help, but it seems like a common problem.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Level2
Hey guys...wondering if you had any ideas to throw at this. About 4 or 5 months ago I had to put new brake shoes on my rear drums on my 2004 ranger 4x4. I have had a problem since the truck was about a year old that when it gets damp or cold that the rear brakes would stick if I set the parking brake and then one day as I was rocking the truck to get the rear brakes to release, it shucked all the friction material off the drivers side shoes. I know that the cables release but the shoes stick.

Then about 2 weeks ago my rear brakes start sticking really bad again. Mostly holding the truck from wanting to go forward but it would roll backwards really easily. Yesterday I pull the drums back off and discover that the inside parts are heavily corroded and the adjuster cable had snapped. I got a rebuild kit and replaces the adjuster cable, adjuster, moisture plug, and adjuster cable guide.

Anybody have any ideas why I would have so much corrosion in the drivers side drum and not in the passenger side?

Thanks for your help.
Just thinking out loud here, are you using OEM brake shoes & the specified lube on the brake mechanical parts, are you driving in, or parking over unusually wet ground, or a water puddle, is the drum brake rubber adjuster plug in place on the backing plate, it helps keep splash water out of the wheel/brake mechanism.

You'll also want to make sure that the little rubber cap is on the brake bleed valve, to keep moisture & dirt out, so it won't rust tight from the inside.

If a wheel is hot, it's a sign that the brake shoe or pad is dragging & not fully releasing for some reason.

In the case of drum brakes, we can set the brake shoe drag, with the brake adjuster.

On a disc brake system, it's a sign that the caliper pins, or caliper may be bound or corroded up & in need of cleaning & lubrication, or replacement of the corroded parts.

Just a bunch of brake thoughts for pondering.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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Anybody have any ideas why I would have so much corrosion in the drivers side drum and not in the passenger side?
Did you check to see if the driver's side has that rubber plug installed on the backing plate? If it's missing, water can get inside there pretty easily.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Shoes are draging on drivers side pretty bad. I replaced the adjuster cable, adjuster, cable guide and rubber plug just the other day. the old plug was fine but I though since I had a new one I would go ahead and change it.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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hmmm...

long shot, but maybe the drum is warped? maybe try get it turned or replace it.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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my adjuster cables snapped some time ago, i just adjust them manually now. havent had a problem with the park brake releaseing , but i very rarely use the parking brake. whenever i have the rear drums off i spray brakeclean all over everything to clean it off, then lube the cable end with wd-40. only rear brake issue ive really had was a blown wheel cylinder on the r.h. side. i rebuilt it with the wheel cylinder still on the truck.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Well I finally found the culprit to the hanging brakes. The short cable that goes from the main cable to the driver's rear wheel is corroded. Time for a new cable! When I did the shoe replacement I had the drums turned due to the rear shoe coming apart and scarring the inside of the drivers side drum. For now I have the cable to the drivers side parking brake disconnected but I will change the cable and start using it again since it is such a habit for me since all I have ever owned for the last 14 years is stick shifts and I always use the parking brake.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Thanks for the info! Glad you found the problem.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Well I finally found the culprit to the hanging brakes. The short cable that goes from the main cable to the driver's rear wheel is corroded. Time for a new cable! When I did the shoe replacement I had the drums turned due to the rear shoe coming apart and scarring the inside of the drivers side drum. For now I have the cable to the drivers side parking brake disconnected but I will change the cable and start using it again since it is such a habit for me since all I have ever owned for the last 14 years is stick shifts and I always use the parking brake.

I had the same problem with my driver side rear wheel on my 2000 Ranger, the truck felt like the parking brake wasn't releasing when I was driving it, so I pulled both rear wheels and drums, the passengers side shoes and drum were fine, but the drivers side front shoe was about completely gone. I replaced the drums and shoes and all the hardware, and also the parking brake cable that runs from the middle cable to the drivers side rear wheel because it was corroded so badly that it no longer moved in it's sleeve.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Parking brake has been sticking on my '99 2x4 for years. I can't tell which wheel. At least three times I have taken drums off and cleaned and readjusted everything, even bought new spring kit. My latest brake change shows no unusual wear. It still sticks bad in cold or damp weather. I always want to set the brake because that's the way to keep it from freezing in place inside the shroud one day. Guess I'll check that short cable as suggested. Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by billj6
Parking brake has been sticking on my '99 2x4 for years. I can't tell which wheel. At least three times I have taken drums off and cleaned and readjusted everything, even bought new spring kit. My latest brake change shows no unusual wear. It still sticks bad in cold or damp weather. I always want to set the brake because that's the way to keep it from freezing in place inside the shroud one day. Guess I'll check that short cable as suggested. Thanks.
Also check the rear passenger side emergency brake cable where it passes by the rear shock absorber. My E brake cable rubs there such that it had just about gone through the outer plastic sheath.

In snow country, or salty coastal areas, if it rubs through that cover, corrosion could cause the cable to bind up inside & be unseen there, but look just fine at the backing plate.

You'll have to move the cable away from the shock to see the rub spot.

I fastened a piece of rubber over the cable to prevent it from rubbing the shock tubing.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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I use an infrared temperature gun to see the temperatures of the drums and discs. When I find a reading that is much higher than the other side, I know where I have a problem.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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i noticed on mine there was a worn-trough spot on the passenger side cable where it had been rubbing against the shock for years. i slid a piece of heater hose around it to act as a bushing. im surprized mine even work at all after 15 years of service. i do have to adjust my drums manually, but thats not too bad a job.
 
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