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Come to Texas We'll show you what gun control really is..........
Originally Posted by magusjinx
think I will stick with a little pocket .357 tho ...
A glock 33 is the next item on the handgun list for me.
Its sad, I always complain about not having the 2 grand to lift the SD and get some nice tires, but I always find the 500 bucks to spend on a new guns.
So I ditched the S&W Sigma, and took the cash I made from the sale (included 4 hi-cap mags) and paid cash for a barely used Glock 17 w/ two 17rd and two 10rd mags.
Got it at the same place where I ordered my Glock 33, which should be here tomorrow. Pics to come.
4. You want to be damn sure the guy who just pulled a knife on you won't even consider getting back up, because you have 16 more waiting for him.
5. Adrenaline. If you ever actually shoot at someone, your hands are probably shaking enough to make James Bond a martini....
5. The Glock 33 has a ~3 inch barrel, so the .357 Sig doesn't reach its max. velocity, so it will lack the punch of a longer gun. Same goes for 9mm, .40, and .45s out of short barrels. Short guns shoot slower, which takes a lot away from the terminal ballistics of handgun rounds. Less punch means you have to hit the target more times to get the same effect.
Plus the extender on the 33 gives the pinky a place to help hold the gun. The added round is just a side effect.
Now the 33 rd hi-cap for Glock 9mms if retarded. It messes with the balance of the gun, making the Glock problem of natuarally pointing way high even worse.
Me with my brand new mossberg 500 turkey edtion. 18 inch barrel, xx-full choke, chambered for 3 inch mags. Simmons shotgun scope, and I have a slug barrel for it. Home defense usually consist of the slug barrel, and the gun loaded with a slug in the chamber, then a 4 shot 3 inch mag, then a slug,alternating all the way down the tube. Thats my dads 1920's vintage winchester model 12 12 gauage hes holding, it belonged to his grandfather, and when he dies Ill get it. I wanna buy some of these rds for home defense. These things look nasty.....espcially the terminator.DeltaForce.com
Good idea for the extender ... As with a lot of accessories ... Anything that helps your grip is a good thing ...
I once thought slugs and buck were the way to go for in-house defense ... But after I saw how many walls it can go thru I changed to flachettes and 6 or smaller birdshot ...
I should have made this a "All the guns you own" thread.... all mine are ending up in here. The extender made a world of difference on the 33, that thing kicks like a mule compared to a 9mm, probably b/c its so light. But I shot a 6" group at 15 ft right out of the box, so I'm happy with it, with a short barrel you can't complain when all 10 rds end up inside the 8 ring. With the 17 I shot a 6" group at ~20 ft on the first 20 rounds, the rear sight is off to the left, but not bad enough to need to be moved quite yet. I'm new to Glock sights, so it could still be me. I shot 9 ring or better for 15 rounds out of a S&W Model 60 with a 2" barrel (.38 Spec) at 15 feet, so I'm still feeling ok about my close range skills.
My .45 was all kinds of messed up this trip; the allen key on the rear Novak sight was loose (WTF?) and after 50 rds I got it close finally. The range made me use paper targets and not the high-viz ones I normally shoot, so it could have all been me not paying attention to where the last shot went and not the sights being reset wrong, but I was frustrated to say the least shooting what is normally my favorite handgun.
magusjinx.... I normally prefer a handgun for home-defense. My .45 has night sights on it, and that hits at least as hard as a single peice of buckshot, and is a lot more controlable and easy to handle in a hallway. Texas has a nice law about being able to carry when you're crossing county lines on a trip to somewhere, and the .38 S&W normally comes with me in the truck then. Shotguns are so unwieldly in a house (at least with +18" barrels), I lock all mine away.
My first defense gun was a SW Model 10 MP ... 4 inch .38 spcl ... I loaded light with inverted hollow base wadcutters ... The hollow base made a huge HP ...