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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Another keyless entry question

I only purchased my SD a couple of months ago. The dealer listed it as having keyless entry, although interrogation revealed they thought the fob's lock/unlock feature was "keyless entry".

Included in the manuals and paperwork was a card with the permanent keyless entry code. I have not yet crawled under the dash to see if that number is on the outside of the computer (as I've learned here).

There is NO keypad on the door. I've been involved with auto repair for decades and am confident that the driver's door is original. No evidence of bodywork or paint -- the hinge bolts don't appear to have ever had a wrench on them.

Anybody know why there'd be a card with the "permanent keyless entry code" and yet no keypad on the door?

Phil

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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Phrosut
I only purchased my SD a couple of months ago. The dealer listed it as having keyless entry, although interrogation revealed they thought the fob's lock/unlock feature was "keyless entry".

Included in the manuals and paperwork was a card with the permanent keyless entry code. I have not yet crawled under the dash to see if that number is on the outside of the computer (as I've learned here).

There is NO keypad on the door. I've been involved with auto repair for decades and am confident that the driver's door is original. No evidence of bodywork or paint -- the hinge bolts don't appear to have ever had a wrench on them.

Anybody know why there'd be a card with the "permanent keyless entry code" and yet no keypad on the door?

Phil

'03 F250 7.3L SC 2WD
My guess would be that they gave you the wrong folder...

Unless that card matches the code on the computer...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Keyless entry is usually the term that all call manufacturers use to say that there is a keyfob that sends out a signal (usually a radio signal) that unlocks the door. Meaning you don't have to use the key in the door handle to unlock it. So they dealer wasn't really lying.

Ford came along and started adding a keypad that allowed you to enter a code to unlock the doors if you didn't have your keys or the keyfob. This keypad was a seperate option from keyless entry on the 99-04 Super Duty. In 2005 the keypad and keyless entry options were combined together and called the advanced security group or something like that.

Ford has two different ways of adding the keypad to a vehicle. One is a hard wired system that ties directly into the power door lock system. This keypad is very thin and only sticks out about 1/8" from the door skin in front of the door on the Super Duty.

The other way is with a stick on keypad. This keypad works just like your standard keyless entry keyfob, except you have to enter a 5 digit code before it will send the radio signal to the vehicle for it to unlock. This keypad is much thicker at about 3/8 to 1/2" thick. Most of the people I have known to add this to a Super Duty have installed it above the door handle, between the handle and the window.

I am guessing that the card for the keypad that you found was for a stick on keypad that the previous owner had installed on the truck. The batteries probably stopped working and someone took it off and threw it away rather than replacing the batteries.

DonJamer has a good point about the possibility they just handed you the wrong owner's guide packet as well. Were there any other Super Duty trucks on the lot when you bought that one? Did any of them have the keypad on the door?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Thanks Beerstalker. I hadn't realized that Ford offered the stick-on keypad. I'd seen it mentioned here but thought the stick-on was aftermarket. The card showing the permanent code is definately "Ford" and not aftermarket branded. A few minutes ago I tried without success to look at the GEM module to see if there's the same number on it.

I prefer the truck without the keypad but have just been puzzled about the card.

Phil

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