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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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H14- I added the Isspro gauges in a 3 pod under the dash and it worked well for me. While I am very interested in fuel econ. I occassionally can't resist feeling the power of the 7.3 with the DP Tuner. I have found the tranny temp. particularly useful when towing my trailer in the mountains.

eatfish: I have experienced the same thing with slightly better fuel econ. in 60tow than 80econ.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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I think I'm going to order the chip. Not a ton of detail on their website but seems there are two ways to get it: as a chip to be installed in the existing ECU, or as a complete ECU, whether bought as a complete unit or existing ECU sent in to be chipped. Am I reading that right?

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
I think I'm going to order the chip. Not a ton of detail on their website but seems there are two ways to get it: as a chip to be installed in the existing ECU, or as a complete ECU, whether bought as a complete unit or existing ECU sent in to be chipped. Am I reading that right?

Thanks for all the comments.

I believe you are correct. If I read it right, though, you order the pcm with 1 tune, and that's all you get.

Much better to go with the F5, and get an assortment of tunes.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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The chip is purchased after you supply the 4 digit PCM code to Jody.

The chip is installed on the PCM board, allowing you the versatility of switching between up to 16 different custom tunes.

Buying a PCM flashed for a custom tune will only give you one tune, whichever one you chose to have flashed onto the PCM.

You can buy the F5 chip, wait a bit and buy the F6 chip, or wait a bit and buy a used F5 chip from those of us who will be upgrading to the F6 chip.

Just remember, if you get the chip (either one) you will have the ability to store up to 16 custom tunes on the chip. Getting a flashed PCM only gives you one tune.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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If you haven't yet talked to the folks at DP Tuner, give them a call and you will get Jody or Diane and they will explain all the options and help you choose the best mod to accomplish the results you seek. They are very friendly and helpful. I have the F5 chip with 5 positions of power and the selector switch. I like it because you can shift between power settings on the fly. Some other options such as the SCT X3 Power Flash require stopping in order to change program levels. If you only want one economy Tune you can probably just get the chip with the desired tune and save quite a bit.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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I'm in the same boat with a chip and gauges right now. BobBarry, do you have any pics of your gauge setup?
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Here's a picture of my gauge setup; clean and simple, and all the information I can use:



Only thing better would be if the Scangauge also had buttons to control the DP-Tuner chip.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Bobbarry...do you have a link for that combo guage?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Bobbarry...do you have a link for that combo guage?
Aeroforce Scangauge

Where I got mine
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Bobbarry, thanks for the link. I see that the gauge you have "captures" electronic signals for some of the information displayed. Does anything have to be hard-wired with a sensor for the 7.3? Or is it all provided electronically through the PCM?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Bobbarry, thanks for the link. I see that the gauge you have "captures" electronic signals for some of the information displayed. Does anything have to be hard-wired with a sensor for the 7.3? Or is it all provided electronically through the PCM?
It reads everything through a single cable that plugs into the OBDII port under the dash (which even provides the power), EXCEPT for the additional sensors you add to feed the two available analog inputs. I added an EGT probe, which is crucial for a turbo but is not one of the factory sensors, and I still have one unused analog input.

The documentation provided on the manufacturer's site lists all the readings you'll get with just the OBDII port connection (it's under Ford Platform II).
 
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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You can ... wait a bit and buy a used F5 chip from those of us who will be upgrading to the F6 chip.
That sounds like a pretty good option. I'm officially in the market for a used chip, assuming I can get it to work on my truck.

Lemme know if you'd like to get rid of yours. No real hurry.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
The chip is purchased after you supply the 4 digit PCM code to Jody.

The chip is installed on the PCM board, allowing you the versatility of switching between up to 16 different custom tunes.

Buying a PCM flashed for a custom tune will only give you one tune, whichever one you chose to have flashed onto the PCM.

You can buy the F5 chip, wait a bit and buy the F6 chip, or wait a bit and buy a used F5 chip from those of us who will be upgrading to the F6 chip.

Just remember, if you get the chip (either one) you will have the ability to store up to 16 custom tunes on the chip. Getting a flashed PCM only gives you one tune.

Stewart
Hey Stewart.


Getting closer to receiving our first batch of F6 chip boards.

Should be ready for ordering on our site late next week.


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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Update: I'm not planning to get gauges, and I installed the tuner a couple of weekends ago.

On another note, the DP-Tuner, as others have posted, seems to mess with the lie-o-meter.

On my first half tank after installing the tuner, my lie-o-meter was showing about 18 mpg. When I calculated it after a 21 gallon fill up, it was almost exactly 14 mpg, a discrepancy of 4 mpg.

Now, after a 30 ish mile highway trip it's showing 22 mpg. If I got an actual 18 mpg on that trip, I'd be delighted.

Anyone have any experience whether this discrepancy is linear? Meaning whether there's a standard factor that you can multiply the indicated mileage by to get the actual mileage?

Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
Update: I'm not planning to get gauges, and I installed the tuner a couple of weekends ago.

On another note, the DP-Tuner, as others have posted, seems to mess with the lie-o-meter.

On my first half tank after installing the tuner, my lie-o-meter was showing about 18 mpg. When I calculated it after a 21 gallon fill up, it was almost exactly 14 mpg, a discrepancy of 4 mpg.

Now, after a 30 ish mile highway trip it's showing 22 mpg. If I got an actual 18 mpg on that trip, I'd be delighted.

Anyone have any experience whether this discrepancy is linear? Meaning whether there's a standard factor that you can multiply the indicated mileage by to get the actual mileage?

Thanks.
I think it's a linear discrepancy under the same conditions; so, at highway speeds, it will always be off a certain amount, and around-town, it will be always off a certain amount, but it may not be off by the same amount in those different conditions. That would make it unpredictable when it's measuring mixed-driving.

Mine tends to read about 1.5mpg higher than actual in mixed driving. I usually use the readout to aim for higher mpg, rather than to tell what specific mileage I'm getting, so it's still remained useful for me.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
Update: I'm not planning to get gauges, and I installed the tuner a couple of weekends ago.

On another note, the DP-Tuner, as others have posted, seems to mess with the lie-o-meter.

On my first half tank after installing the tuner, my lie-o-meter was showing about 18 mpg. When I calculated it after a 21 gallon fill up, it was almost exactly 14 mpg, a discrepancy of 4 mpg.

Now, after a 30 ish mile highway trip it's showing 22 mpg. If I got an actual 18 mpg on that trip, I'd be delighted.

Anyone have any experience whether this discrepancy is linear? Meaning whether there's a standard factor that you can multiply the indicated mileage by to get the actual mileage?

Thanks.

I really don't believe it is linear at all. When I tracked mileage vs LOM with my Diablosport, the LOM said 19.1 on 60 E. I hand calced 17.4. When I went to the 100 HP tune, my LOM was reading 21.4, but actual was 16.43.

Your results may vary....
 
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