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The Scout was a tough vehicle, like the Bronco. It was made by International when IH still made trucks. They were very durable and dependable but not very flashy. Tended to be underpowered compared to Fords, Jeeps, and Chevys. You could turn a Bronco on a dime, a Jeep on a nickel, a Blazer on a quarter and a Scout on an Ike dollar. That's part of the reason they bit the weenie. International also made another great off-roader called the TravelAll, kind of like the Suburban but a lot tougher. Lots of them were used by companies as crew-haulers. Plain-Jane is the operative word here for Internationals. Their big deal was tractors and industrial-strength engines. Their utility vehicles was more of a sideline deal.
You wouldn't win any races in any Scout I ever drove but you would be able to get from point A to point B and back regardless of what lay between.
The Bronco is a better choice for it's superior maneuverability, bullet-proof running gear, and power.
scouts are cool, but the Bronco takes it in that they have the front coils, and the near 3/4 ton running gear, they are tough!!!! We have beaten the hell out of my bro's (its been rolled a couple of times) and it always comes back for more. I love the scouts though, they are pretty burly from the factory, you cant really go wrongwith either.
I think theres a little bias here. I had two Scouts and they were bullit proof. They have Dana 44s at both ends. They have the best small transfercase. While I agree they are under powered, they turn just as sharp as anything on the road. I have a big Bronco now, so I've got no axe to grind.
Bias isn't a factor with the turning radius. An early Bronco has a tighter turning circle than a Jeep CJ-5. Hell, a fullsize '78-'79 Bronco can out-turn a CJ-5. The Scout isn't even close--it's turning circle is nearly 10' larger. The Scout's wheelbase is considerably longer, and the turning angle is limited by the leaf springs in front vs. the coils in the Bronco.
Year/Make/Model Turning Circle
1966 Ford Bronco 33.5'
1975 Ford Bronco 33.8'
1977 Ford Bronco 33.8'
1971 Pinzgauer 710 34'
Jeep CJ-3B 34.6'
1978 Ford Bronco 35.4'(pwr) 38.0'(man)
1979 Ford Bronco 35.4'(pwr) 38.0'(man)
1965 Jeep CJ-5 35.9'
2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 37.4'
2005 Porsche Cayenne 38.4'
2004 Land Rover Discovery 39'
2005 Toyota Land Cruiser 39.7'
1971 Pinzgauer 712 40'
2004 GMC Yukon XL Denali 42.3'
1965 International Scout 43' (later models 39')
Jeep CJ-6 43'
2005 HUMMER H2 SUV Sport Utility 43.5'
2005 F250 CC SB 51.8'
I do agree that the stock running gear of the stock Bronco is no stronger than that of the Scout, and, in fact, they share many common parts such as the Dana 20 t-case.
Mine personally. I dont think the question is whether or not they are both good vehicles. But Curb appeal. Always wins
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The bronco and scout were the toughest 4x4's to come out of the 60's. They left jeep in the dust. I love my jeeps, but I have to tell it like it is. The trails are still loaded with old bronco's to this day. They didn't sell as many scouts so you don't see as many. I'm not saying jeeps were junk, it's just that ford and international made advances where as jeep kind of motored a long on old plateforms and drivetrains.
I can't comment about the older broncos, but I had a 77 Scout II that turned on a dime, maybe the older 80 and 800s weren't very sharp turners? That scout would easily out turn my wifes 86 bronco. My father had an old willeys jeep that he put a 200ci? strait six ford into, and while it was a good off roader, the Scout he had later in life was so much better, he wished he still had it. And one more thing, the scouts are built like a freaking tank!
I have a question, been looking all weekend for the answer.
I have a 76 Bronco. Just brought it home from Idaho. It has an rv cam and Holley 350 carb. It started having problems on the way, so I swapped out fuel filter, reason being, found sediment. Got it home, cleaned carb. Now it won't run and less than 1700rpms. and has absolutely no power. drop into gear, engine dies. Can't find the timing specs anywhere. Just bought the thing and now, I can't seem to get it dialed it to save my life. Anyone got a clue for me, I'm all out.
Had a neighbor who owned a Scout, and that truck seemed to go everywhere. Driveline in that vehicle was amazing, but the body fell apart on it, as well as some of the underpinnings eventually which is why he ended up sending it off to the scrap heap. He ended up buying a Blazer (of all things! ) and had nothing but problems. If he was smart....
I have a 76 Bronco. Just brought it home from Idaho. It has an rv cam and Holley 350 carb. It started having problems on the way, so I swapped out fuel filter, reason being, found sediment. Got it home, cleaned carb. Now it won't run and less than 1700rpms. and has absolutely no power. drop into gear, engine dies. Can't find the timing specs anywhere. Just bought the thing and now, I can't seem to get it dialed it to save my life. Anyone got a clue for me, I'm all out.
The Midnight Rider.
Sounds like a vacuum leak to me. Get it to idle as low as you can, then VERY carefully lightly spray some starting fluid around the base of the carb. If the engine climbs in RPMs, you've found the leak. Be careful, if you have any spark, the starting fluid can cause one hell of a fire!
This is an old topic. Anyhow having owned a 61 scout and own a 71 bronco - the frame looks to be the same geometry - has the same dash - has the same bumpers - just saying.
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