I broke the drivers side window and need to replace it. I took off the door panel so as to remove the frame that holds the window. I have been unsucessful in removing the white plastic unit that the glass is attached to from the door. Is there a secret to removing this white plastic glass slide piece from the door mechinisum so as to be able to replace the glass ??

Any help would be appreciated ... It seems like a simple operation , but I am unable to figure it out. It seems like everything should just slide apart easily but it is not happening.

 

I have to assume you are talking about the roller attached to the lift arm and you have power windows.

Basically, you unbolt everything, you lower the window (watch out for fingers!), and slide it towards the end of the track through the opening, by tilting forward slightly. I just happen to be stripping an EB and it's windows today, so if this doesn't do it for you, let me know and I will post exact directions and a few pictures later today.

 

I have unbolted the up and down slide channel (3 bolts) . When I slide the roller attached to the lift arm to the end of the track I can get it out of the track , but it then binds between the white plastic window holder and the up and down slide channel . The lift arm has about a 1/4 inch kickout which doesn't clear the up and down slide channel and binds up not allowing it to be seperated. Do the rivits that hold the power motor etc have to be removed ?

Exact Directions and any picturers would be GREATLY appreciated .... It seems as if there has to be an easy way for all this to come apart , but so far it eludes me.
Thanks

 

Okay, I am in the middle of doing this job on a 1990 B2 with power windows and power locks. You might want to reattach the channel.

Put the window up.

First remove the door panel.

Remove the speaker, you do not want to damage it.

Remove the vent in the lower corner of the door.

The wire harness behind it is attached with a trim clip. Pry it up, pull the harness out of the door. Disconnect the power window harness.

Put a block of wood in the door (note - I held the window with my shoulder while doing this - you do not have a piece of glass so skip this step) so the window does not come crashing down. I doubt it would since the motor will hold it, but, you never know.

Grind the four rivets off flush without eating too much metal off the door. If a tad of the rivet is left inside the hole, push it through with a screw driver.

Go under the door and take off the bolt holding the motor in place.

While holding the window or the track, take the other hand, lift the motor slightly, and push the motor/reg. assembly towards the front of the door and the roller will come off the open track.

Have to feed my kids, I will post the rest about getting the glass out in a few hours. Looks like just two bolts and it is free.

 

The answer to all my problems could be in the fact of having to drill out the rivets that are holding the entire assembly in place, along with the rivets that hold the glass to the white plastic frame. I didn't think that that would be necessary , I guess that I just figured that the glass assembly would somehow just slide out by unbolting what was necessary. Evidently the glass is riveted into place after it is installed in the door and the process has to be reversed to remove it. Do you find this assumption to be correct ?

 

Okay, unbolt the motor, then slide the motor and regulator out of the door through the back opening.

Then drill the two rivets out holding the glass (they go through those big white washers)

Remove the glass, unbolt the track on the side and bottom of the door, remove it.

Everything is out.

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NOW ... if you are just replacing the glass and have no real need to remove the track, just drill out the two rivets going through the glass and leave everything in the door.

How to do the drilling, grind the heads and stem off flush with the metal surface. Using a 1/4" drill, put pressure on the rivet middle while drilling and it should push/spin the rivet out of the front plastic white washers. Use a needle nose to pull anything out of the metal from the back or from the glass (once removed).

They sell the rivets for the glass on most auto parts stores.

I use 1/4" x 1"? grade 5/8 bolts, small washers front and back with a nyl-nut or a metal locking nut (preferred - end is squished so it can't unscrew without some force).

To get the glass in, tilt it forward, come in from the exterior of the door, and once inside the door, tilt it back.

> Evidently the glass is riveted into place

Yes, most Fords have rivets holding the glass/regulators in place.

It has been a few years since I have done power windows in a B2, but, I think 1989-1990 B2's are a slightly different setup then 84-88. I would have to check a book or another B2 to be sure.

Hope that helps.

 

Thanks it did help .... My main problem was thinking that the glass assembly could be removed without having to drill out the rivets.

 

You are welcome.

Unfortunately no, it is what makes getting them at junk yards a problem unless you have a battery operated grinder/dremel.

 

if you use bolts be careful my you can break the glass I know from experience