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Ford Lawsuit
I think this would obviously apply to the Excursion as well.
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Associated Press - August 27, 2008 4:04 PM ET
TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - A U.S. Border Patrol agent is suing the Ford Motor Co., alleging that defective design left him paralyzed from a rollover accident in 2007 on the Tohono O'odham Reservation.
The suit filed in Pima County Superior Court alleges that the Ford F-250 truck agent Luis Pena Jr. was driving on Federal Route 20 "was not designed to provide reasonable and necessary occupant protection in the event of a rollover," with roof and supporting pillars providing insufficient crush protection.
Pena was responding to a narcotics call when he lost control and rolled over at slow speeds. The roof collapsed and he was trapped.
Pena's spine was fractured, leaving the then 30-year-old a quadriplegic.
Calls seeking comment from Ford weren't immediately returned on Wednesday.
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Associated Press - August 27, 2008 4:04 PM ET
TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - A U.S. Border Patrol agent is suing the Ford Motor Co., alleging that defective design left him paralyzed from a rollover accident in 2007 on the Tohono O'odham Reservation.
The suit filed in Pima County Superior Court alleges that the Ford F-250 truck agent Luis Pena Jr. was driving on Federal Route 20 "was not designed to provide reasonable and necessary occupant protection in the event of a rollover," with roof and supporting pillars providing insufficient crush protection.
Pena was responding to a narcotics call when he lost control and rolled over at slow speeds. The roof collapsed and he was trapped.
Pena's spine was fractured, leaving the then 30-year-old a quadriplegic.
Calls seeking comment from Ford weren't immediately returned on Wednesday.
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While I regret his injuries and agree that the roof pillars could be stronger, when are we, as a society, going to live with the mistakes we make and stop blaming everyone else.
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I believe that was actually a problem ford address. Something about how the gas tank was mounted.
Anyways, something sounds slightly strange. He flipped a 7000 lb truck over going slow? How do you that? I can see if he turned the wheel all the way to lock while doing like 80 while hitting a patch of ice. Its just not that often you see a large pickup like that, especially without a trailer just rolling over when your going slow.
I don't think the lawsuit will hold up, the cab would have to be immensely strong to hold a 7000 lb truck up, even more so if it was a regular cab long bed.
Anyways, something sounds slightly strange. He flipped a 7000 lb truck over going slow? How do you that? I can see if he turned the wheel all the way to lock while doing like 80 while hitting a patch of ice. Its just not that often you see a large pickup like that, especially without a trailer just rolling over when your going slow.
I don't think the lawsuit will hold up, the cab would have to be immensely strong to hold a 7000 lb truck up, even more so if it was a regular cab long bed.
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I gotta agree the roof support is sub-par on these trucks. Ford has known about this since the 70's and faced a number of lawsuits over it. The mustang failed ford's own internal crash testing for gas spillage and doors getting jammed shut from 79 through 04, but sent the cars out that way anyway. Ford really needs to step up the game in crash protection in my opinion. This has been an issue for them for decades.
I think the guy has a legit beef if it was a low speed rollover and it crushed the roof. We all know they are heavy trucks and the roof takes a heck of a lot of weight in a rollover, but average joe and suzy doe assume there will be some average level of safety in a rollover, when in fact there is not.
This isnt a idiot spilling coffee in there lap and suing mcdonalds lawsuit, I think this is much more credible. You gotta remember not everyone is on top of automotive knowledge as some of us. Just my personal opinion.
I think the guy has a legit beef if it was a low speed rollover and it crushed the roof. We all know they are heavy trucks and the roof takes a heck of a lot of weight in a rollover, but average joe and suzy doe assume there will be some average level of safety in a rollover, when in fact there is not.
This isnt a idiot spilling coffee in there lap and suing mcdonalds lawsuit, I think this is much more credible. You gotta remember not everyone is on top of automotive knowledge as some of us. Just my personal opinion.
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The Crown Victoria lawsuits were absurd. Most of the explosions and fires were caused by the numerous items cops carry in the trunk puncturing the gas tanks during high speed rear end impacts. Furthermore, if I run into the back of any car while I'm going 80 to 100 mph, there's a high likelihood of fire.
As far as the F250 (and related) lawsuits, none of us plan on leaving home and rolling over tonight. But if another person causes us to do so, they should be held responsible. If a border patrol agent loses control at a low speed, as indicated in this lawsuit, it's obviously his fault! Put me on the jury please!
As far as the F250 (and related) lawsuits, none of us plan on leaving home and rolling over tonight. But if another person causes us to do so, they should be held responsible. If a border patrol agent loses control at a low speed, as indicated in this lawsuit, it's obviously his fault! Put me on the jury please!
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I gotta agree the roof support is sub-par on these trucks. Ford has known about this since the 70's and faced a number of lawsuits over it. The mustang failed ford's own internal crash testing for gas spillage and doors getting jammed shut from 79 through 04, but sent the cars out that way anyway. Ford really needs to step up the game in crash protection in my opinion. This has been an issue for them for decades.
I think the guy has a legit beef if it was a low speed rollover and it crushed the roof. We all know they are heavy trucks and the roof takes a heck of a lot of weight in a rollover, but average joe and suzy doe assume there will be some average level of safety in a rollover, when in fact there is not.
This isnt a idiot spilling coffee in there lap and suing mcdonalds lawsuit, I think this is much more credible. You gotta remember not everyone is on top of automotive knowledge as some of us. Just my personal opinion.
I think the guy has a legit beef if it was a low speed rollover and it crushed the roof. We all know they are heavy trucks and the roof takes a heck of a lot of weight in a rollover, but average joe and suzy doe assume there will be some average level of safety in a rollover, when in fact there is not.
This isnt a idiot spilling coffee in there lap and suing mcdonalds lawsuit, I think this is much more credible. You gotta remember not everyone is on top of automotive knowledge as some of us. Just my personal opinion.
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The Crown Victoria lawsuits were absurd. Most of the explosions and fires were caused by the numerous items cops carry in the trunk puncturing the gas tanks during high speed rear end impacts. Furthermore, if I run into the back of any car while I'm going 80 to 100 mph, there's a high likelihood of fire.
As far as the F250 (and related) lawsuits, none of us plan on leaving home and rolling over tonight. But if another person causes us to do so, they should be held responsible. If a border patrol agent loses control at a low speed, as indicated in this lawsuit, it's obviously his fault! Put me on the jury please!
As far as the F250 (and related) lawsuits, none of us plan on leaving home and rolling over tonight. But if another person causes us to do so, they should be held responsible. If a border patrol agent loses control at a low speed, as indicated in this lawsuit, it's obviously his fault! Put me on the jury please!
I'm sure being a quadrapeligic is no fun for this guy but the fact is, he is the one who was driving the truck, he assumed the risk of driving a vehicle just like the rest of us. Do you think he would have been driving his personal vehicle in the same manor he was driving a government vehicle? The sad thing is that you know he's had ev training and should have had a better idea of the limits of the vehicle.
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I also think its kinda funny everyone is blaming this guy when we have NO idea how the accident happened.
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I think being Border Patrol and doing lots of off road driving at high and low speeds there is no excuse for not having at least a single loop rollbar installed. There are lots of times they could be chasing felons in off road situations.
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