ive just about had enough
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ive just about had enough
i tell ya ive had a round out of this 88 BII i bought it with the wiring harness shreaded after a month or two and lots of help from you guys i got on the road for 3 months something gets down on a piston , destroyed the cylinder and piston i got hurt and had to let it sit for 7 month o get a rebuilt long block from Grooms engines in Nashville Tn welp i got it together last night and running for about 10 minutes. this evening i go and pull the oil dipstick and guess what ? WATER in the oil
get to checking around and there seems to be some compression geting in the rad. lots of bubbles. can someone tell me the proper procedures for testing before i go off on Grooms
sorry for bothering you guys so much but i jjjjjjjjjjjjjust bbbbbbout had it!
get to checking around and there seems to be some compression geting in the rad. lots of bubbles. can someone tell me the proper procedures for testing before i go off on Groomssorry for bothering you guys so much but i jjjjjjjjjjjjjust bbbbbbout had it!
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Take it back to Grooms. Water/coolant in the oil, compression bubbles in the radiator? Sounds like either a cracked head, cracked block (rare---but possible), blown head gasket, and my personal favorite? Incorrect engine assembly if this just came back supposedly repaired/rebuilt.
Was this YOUR engine being rebuilt--- Or a "Crate" engine pre-rebuilt and all you needed to do is add your engine covers and intake?
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(don't mean to sound pissy about it...but I do not like seeing people spending a large chuck of money...and then having problems after doing so)
Was this YOUR engine being rebuilt--- Or a "Crate" engine pre-rebuilt and all you needed to do is add your engine covers and intake?
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(don't mean to sound pissy about it...but I do not like seeing people spending a large chuck of money...and then having problems after doing so)
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thanks its a " crate motor " just add intake timing cover and the rest of the tins i can see the intake leaking water in the motor but i cant see the intake getting compression in the rad the engine has those new improved heads not rebuilt
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Sounds like they didn't get the quality control where it belongs. compression in the radiator sounds more like the head gasket was not installed correctly. Or something more serious they missed.
As much as it's a PITA? Crate engines have normally a decent warr. Time to talk with the shop and put on the ol' diplomat cap. You're right, even the intake being installed in the worst manner? Would never create an issue with engine compression getting kicked into the radiator. Sounds like it's warranty time.
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As much as it's a PITA? Crate engines have normally a decent warr. Time to talk with the shop and put on the ol' diplomat cap. You're right, even the intake being installed in the worst manner? Would never create an issue with engine compression getting kicked into the radiator. Sounds like it's warranty time.
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hey Tedybear i jumped the gun on the water in the oil it is luberplate they used to put the engine togather so that little problem is solved but i have new problems its running ruff timing problems timing lite shows 40 degrees high but when i lower the i timing it runs better but if i touch the throttle it just dies it is showing 0 codes
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spout disconnected with dist. turned all way counter clockwise turn clock wise it wont take the gas at all i didnt use the light so im not sure if it was BTDC
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Sounds like the dist. is a few teeth off maybe?
I just tore the top half of our 2.9 this afternoon off the truck (one head to go) The disty marks, along with the nice twist it does while removing it from the block makes it easy to miss the mark(s). Might want to bring the crank to TDC (and this next part is gonna suc..) remove the dist. cap and check the rotor to see if it's pointing on cyc. number 1. If it's pointing 180' out of phase? Rotate the engine one more time to TDC and the rotor button bit should line up with cylinder #1.
Ours so far has fought us tooth and nail, even with the marks made? It's clear that it would be all to easy to miss the alignment.
Not sure if this could be the issue? But it's the best I can come up with at this end.
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edit: I'd suggest using a shop manual for this exact procedure, just incase... I'm firing from the hip with this response, as our shop manual is out in the garage on the other side of town.
I just tore the top half of our 2.9 this afternoon off the truck (one head to go) The disty marks, along with the nice twist it does while removing it from the block makes it easy to miss the mark(s). Might want to bring the crank to TDC (and this next part is gonna suc..) remove the dist. cap and check the rotor to see if it's pointing on cyc. number 1. If it's pointing 180' out of phase? Rotate the engine one more time to TDC and the rotor button bit should line up with cylinder #1.
Ours so far has fought us tooth and nail, even with the marks made? It's clear that it would be all to easy to miss the alignment.
Not sure if this could be the issue? But it's the best I can come up with at this end.
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edit: I'd suggest using a shop manual for this exact procedure, just incase... I'm firing from the hip with this response, as our shop manual is out in the garage on the other side of town.
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i failed to mention that this just started out of the blue yesterday i have rechecked the timing and with the # one up the dist is pointing right at it
a buddy of mine came up and checked the timing he said it right also said he has seen the ecm on the side of the dist throw the timing off what you guys think? he's bringing another dist tomorrow to try
a buddy of mine came up and checked the timing he said it right also said he has seen the ecm on the side of the dist throw the timing off what you guys think? he's bringing another dist tomorrow to try
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That ignition module can do some really crazy things if it goes bad. (lame design by Ford)
Some people do not know when it's installed? There is a very specific "Grease" (dielectric type---think CPU's on computers) That's used to help heat transfer to avoid the electronics from overheating. I've found a few with even hair-line cracks from all the heat!
Give it a shot with the other disty and see what happens? Heck, might be just a loose connection.
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Some people do not know when it's installed? There is a very specific "Grease" (dielectric type---think CPU's on computers) That's used to help heat transfer to avoid the electronics from overheating. I've found a few with even hair-line cracks from all the heat!
Give it a shot with the other disty and see what happens? Heck, might be just a loose connection.
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Its Alive Its Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was the distributor!!!!!!popped a used one in there and it came alive i didnt even pull number one spark plug as i was sure it was timed right i just stoped the engine with rotor button pointed to number one popped that dude out and droped the new one in it fired right off. dang im glad thats over with. im ready to get back to my antique tractors one wire and i can make them run THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP
