Link: Ford high on fuel sippers

Link: Ford delays smaller F-100 pickup, focuses on EcoBoost powertrains

 

Exciting stuff if it turns out to be cost effective and efficient. Maybe all this silence by Ford will pay off??

 

I am glad to see the ecoboost is slated for the F-150 (18 months). This will be good for Ford. I'd be very interested in an ecoboost F-150 if the tourqe and HP numbers are there.

 

HP is way up on the Ecoboost. See my other thread.

25 mpg plus falling gas prices. It will be happy days are hear again.

 

Call me grumpy, but I hope Ford pays you well for the propaganda...

 

Grumpy!!!

As great as all of these claims are....there's not a whole lot more that can be done for an internal combustion gasoline engine. Sure, you can always develop more efficient ways of doing things...smaller engines, for example waste less...but not THAT MUCH less!

Everyone seems to come on here asking for a 30 MPG full size pickup truck that can actually tow a trailer. It's NOT POSSIBLE with today's technology!

But...any increase is a welcome change for me...I'm all for it!!!!

 

i dont see a 30 mpg truck anytime in the near future,but it would be nice to get a consistent 20 mpg and have all the power

 

Let's not forget that "today's" technology used to be the technology of the future. Ecoboost is beyond "today's" technology and one step closer to the future.

 

I disagree. Its the emissions crap that really holds everything back.

Put the f150 on a good diet, throw in an engine of todays technology, with out the emissions crap on it, and you get your 30 mpg.(empty, not loaded or towing)

 

I would think that with how clean engine have gotten in the last 15 years we could have only minimal emissions equipment or none at all. I know that my 2007 Mustang GT only has 2 converters and no smog pump, whereas a 1997 Mustang Gt has up to 6 converters and a smog pump.

 

Ecoboost technology has been around for a while, at least 10 years, but the auto industry has drug their feet. Marine Engines made the shift in the mid to late 90's to direct injected, high pressure engines. Mercury Optimax, Mercury Verado, Evinrude E-Tec, and Yamaha HPDI engines are exactly what we are talking about. They achieved exactly what Ford is now claiming their engines will do.

I have an 2009 Platinum on order, and if I knew that a ECB V-6 would be available in the 2010 model truck I would wait. I don't see it happening. My guess is it will be 2011 or 2012 models at the earliest and I can't wait 2 more years to replace my current F-150. So I am stuck in this dilema, plus my 2009 model may only arrive shortly before the 2010 models come out at this pace. It's rediculiuos!

 

Have you tried this??? Otherwise it is pure assumption...we all know where that gets us...

Remember "In God We Trust"...all others bring data!!!!

 

No i havent tried it. Its common knowledge that a vehicle that weighs less would get better mileage. If I could get my PSD to weigh 2000 lbs less you bet i would be getting way better mileage.

As for the emissions crap, just look at the new 6.4 liter diesel.
Also if your into big rigs, look at the history of the economy of the engines over the years. Seems like the old mechanical engines got better mileage then the computerized ones, and the new ones with all the emissions compliant stuff on them get even worse.

With how efficient the engines burn the fuel now a days, compared to the older engines, they should be able to do better. Add in some better areodynamics (and a uglier truck) and there ya go!

Sometimes data isnt needed where common sense should kick in

 

Really? can you explain the ranger's crappy F150 like mileage then?

Can't really argue the 6.4... the EPA has a ******** for dizzle's

Yep... but at the same time, the trucks got a lot bigger and a lot more capable. hard to make a pickup truck get good gas mileage, (almost) no matter how small; mainly due to the brick shape, and heavy drivetrain components... Once you realize that as a manufacturer, trucks get bigger and bigger without much loss in the efficiency department...

should be able to do better according to what? how clean the engines run or how choked down they are with emissions? or how stressed out they are from pushing something the shape of a barn at speeds older trucks wouldn't even dream of reaching; while hauling cargo an old truck couldn't dream about...

good point. in today's world you're getting a MUCH more capable truck, a much safer vehicle, burning much cleaner all while having the same brick aerodynamics, and having heavier components that last a lot longer.

The 4 cyl ranger, or the Mahindra truck in one of the other threads on this forum should give you an idea the kind of drastic changes a truck would have to go through to gain considerable mpg's over today's half tons... If ford were to follow this whole "it needs to get x mileage" criteria, I can't wait till someone tries to hook up a 30' travel trailer to one of those... "what... my 06 half ton was able to do it..."

 

I guess all in all i think the different classes of trucks should go more back to their roots.

I bet in this day and age alot of people (not everyone I know) would be willing to sacrafice a little bit of payload, and towing capacity for a truck thats signifigantly better on fuel.