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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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What goes where?

I just slid a 89' 302 into my 81' and now comes the hard part.
I would like to know if anyone knows if on a 81' the dizzy need full vac all the time or rpm vac. from the carb....long question short, what side of an edelbrock 600cfm carb do I hook to the dizzy? and now onto the tranny...
I have a vac line poking up behind the block from the tranny same question... I think it's for the passing gear, right? So should I use the same port ( if the carb needs it too)? I have pic's of the trans vac.
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and what is the big vac port in the middle of the carb used for? ( I think I'm supposed to hook it up to the intake? right?) Here's the pic for that
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Does any one have a vac diagram for this thing?
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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This line for the trans can go to the manifold vacuum tree fitting, or the plastic vacuum tree mounted on the firewall above the engine. Don't forget to hook the plastic tree up, since it has your heat and A/C controls on it.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Port #2 looks like the PCV valve port. This has a big line that goes to one of the valve covers with the PCV valve. You need to hook this up to keep the inside of the engine clean.

Plug the rest of the ports on the carb, and leave the dist line disconnected. When you get it running, and get the idle set, pull the caps off till you find one that only has vacuum when you rev the engine. That's the one you want to hook to the dist.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Firing order?

ok so this 302 came out of an 89' f150 so is it the reg. firing order?
It has roller lifters in it I think
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so does that mean the 351 order?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Port #2 looks like the PCV valve port. This has a big line that goes to one of the valve covers with the PCV valve. You need to hook this up to keep the inside of the engine clean.

Plug the rest of the ports on the carb, and leave the dist line disconnected. When you get it running, and get the idle set, pull the caps off till you find one that only has vacuum when you rev the engine. That's the one you want to hook to the dist.
Is that always true? Emissions of the era used vaccum like that with a chopper to not lose advance if you cob the throttle, AND they used a TVS (thermal vacuum switch) to give high vacuum at all throttle openings when hot to cool the head temps (NOx concerns)

If this thing has to be somewhat legal...
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by quaddriver
Is that always true? Emissions of the era used vaccum like that with a chopper to not lose advance if you cob the throttle, AND they used a TVS (thermal vacuum switch) to give high vacuum at all throttle openings when hot to cool the head temps (NOx concerns)

If this thing has to be somewhat legal...
They did all kinds of crazy stuff through the years with the vacuum to the dist for emissions reasons. Hooking it straight to the ported vacuum source on the carb is the simple, non-emissions old school 60's way of making it work with good fuel economy. That carb he installed is a non-emissions carb anyway.

On the firing order. If the 302 you installed was a non-HO engine, then it has the old 302 firing order. If it's a HO engine, then it has the 351w firing order. If someone changed camshafts, then it could be either one.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Click this link: Edelbrock.com - Carburetors & Accessories - Intro and then click on the manual link. The exploded views identify all the ports.
 
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this 302 has roller lifters so does that make it HO?
 
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No, roller lifters does not make it an HO. All car 302's had roller lifters around 86-up, and I think the truck blocks had the block cast for them, but did not start using the roller lifters till a little bit later.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 03:47 AM
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The carb vaccume fitting that goes to the distributor won't have any vaccume at idle but will have high vaccume just above idle speed. It will then slowly decrease under a full load and high RPM. The big fitting you show is for the PVC valve. The transmittion must have full manifold vaccume.
 
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