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Seriously look into the wing type plows. I have plowed commercially for a number of years and have had all types of plows. Currently run a 10' box on a backhoe and an 8' box on a skidsteer, along with my truck. Have had a straight and a V plow the V definitely stacks better. I have also plowed with a Fisher XLS and will buy this for my next one. This plow goes out to 10' or 9' with the leading edge pushed forward leaving no trails. If I moved both wings in the plow becomes a 9' push plow and moves way more snow than a V blade could think of.
Go to you tube and put in the various plows you are interested in and there are videos of all them pushing snow.
For commercial lots the extendable plows are the way to go. Boss and western are both good plows, but I am running an 8' Fisher Xblade right now and will stay with Fisher they are built really well.
just my $.02 here, but a I plow commercially and make quite a bit of money doing it.
Toyman
Go to you tube and put in the various plows you are interested in and there are videos of all them pushing snow.
For commercial lots the extendable plows are the way to go. Boss and western are both good plows, but I am running an 8' Fisher Xblade right now and will stay with Fisher they are built really well.
just my $.02 here, but a I plow commercially and make quite a bit of money doing it.
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I own a number of Blizzards and they are tanks. (You can bend anything if you hit it hard enough), but that said the wings are rather stout and they have a hydraulic relief valve that will allow them to fold flat on impact.
Blizzard is not the only moustrap, but as we all know, there are many ways to catch mice..........
Blizzard is not the only moustrap, but as we all know, there are many ways to catch mice..........
Listen to this guy ^^^^^ this is what you need
Be carefull not to over size your plow , some guys tend to overwork their truck and they dont even know it, my .02 worth
Is 10' too big??
Cuz I know of a guy that makes these wings.... this could be out to 12' with a few clicks of the mouse and a little welding.Seriously though, if you did decide to buy a Blizzard, do so with confidence. They are extremely durable. I've plowed with the one shown for 4 seasons now. All commercial lots on a route that's about 5-6 hours for a 2" snowfall. Never any problems with it, and yes I've hit my fair share of stuff with the wings. I only recently tweaked one of them a little bit. It still works fine, and scrapes perfectly, though. It was most likely my fault. I think I did it while winging back some frozen rows of snow. But ya if you want to move some snow commercially and make some $$, I wouldn't look anywhere else. Although from what I understand the Fisher XLS is a great plow as well.
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Western and Boss all the way. I have driven trucks with Meyers on them, absolutely horrible. You feel every dip and bump, not to mention the jarring if you tap anything. Plus, the truck basically absorbs all the impacts. Westerns on the other hand have a terrific suspension, Boss V-Plows are pretty neat, and have great advantages if you need to push straight or do a driveway. I do mostly commercial, and I would never think of any other brand. If you want something that extends out, I would recommend a Western Wide-Out, which starts as a 8 ft. or so, and extends out to 10. This makes it a lot easier to transport on roads and such.
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Personally I'm not sold on the wide-outs, extra moving parts, extra weight, my theory keep it simple , check out www.arcticsnowplows.com ,I'm thinking this is the ticket, Let me know your opinion, Larry
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The Arctic is a well built typical plow, but, if you plow professionally you want to move as much snow as possible as quickly as possible. My next plow will definitely be a Fisher XLS, extends to 10', or can move to a 9' snow box. An extra 2' will cut your time by about 35% over a strait blade.
As for the to many moving parts. It has the same amount of electronincs and hydraulics that a V blade has.
Just my $.02
As for the to many moving parts. It has the same amount of electronincs and hydraulics that a V blade has.
Just my $.02
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I push a 9' Fisher MM, with my 06' F-350,,this plow has been on my last 3 Superdutys,,,purchased it late 99' or 00',,so it is atleast 9 yrs old now,,plow commercal and driveways,,,had it sandblasted 2 yrs ago,,replace the fluid, each year,,had to change one harness,,,,Fisher's are a Rugged plow,,,XLS maybe my next one too !
One thing I did this yr,,with the plow up,,I put a 3' pipewrench on the trip edge,,as I tripped it,,slid in the gap (where the trip edge meets the plow blade) a pc of 3/8x3/8 square stock steel, welded it in place,,this pc of 3/8 steel puts the cutting edge at a more(verticle) upright angle,,scraping better and it also lets the snow fall off the blade much better when lifting and backing up.
One thing I did this yr,,with the plow up,,I put a 3' pipewrench on the trip edge,,as I tripped it,,slid in the gap (where the trip edge meets the plow blade) a pc of 3/8x3/8 square stock steel, welded it in place,,this pc of 3/8 steel puts the cutting edge at a more(verticle) upright angle,,scraping better and it also lets the snow fall off the blade much better when lifting and backing up.
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The newer Fishers have the more aggressive adge already. I have a couple year old Xblade, with a stainless mold board, it cleans and back drgs pretty well. I don't have a flap on the top of my plow and get very minimal snow over the top.
I think the edge angle on the new plows is 70*.
I think the edge angle on the new plows is 70*.
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I had a Meyer several years ago and it did OK. Simple plow and easy to work on. I burnt out the motor and was back in service in two hours, including driving to get a new one. I went with a Fisher 7'6" now because I like the trip-edge. It was the absolute RIGHT decision 14 years ago and that plow is still working. If you're looking at BOSS Vee, keep a couple of details in mind: You need the optional locking cylinders to back-drag; and the Vee, as I recall does NOT have a trip-edge like Fisher and Western. My personal taste is Fisher all the way. One more thing: Fisher and Western are owned by the same holding company, so Im wonder how long both brnads are going to be available?
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Not only can you overwork the truck, but an oversized plow gets clusmsy to work with in tight spaces, even parking lots with dividers. Also, unless its the first pass through, you are never plowing with the full blade, some some of the advantage of the larger blade becomes less apparent.
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For anyone who has never plowed with a power plow such as the Blizzard 810 (pictured) the Blizzard 8611, the Western Wideout, or the Fisher XLS, you simply don't know what you're missing. Period. A Vee has a couple advantages, and I won't argue that, but for pure productivity, you can't beat any of those I mentioned. Anyone I know who has plowed with a Vee then gone to a power plow won't go back to anything else. Especially a straight blade. Sure its more weight... but how much really I think the 810 weights around 950 lbs, whereas an 8' HD commercial straight blade probably still weighs 750-800. This is just my .02, but I know I'll never plow with anything other than what I already have.
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Not only can you overwork the truck, but an oversized plow gets clusmsy to work with in tight spaces, even parking lots with dividers. Also, unless its the first pass through, you are never plowing with the full blade, some some of the advantage of the larger blade becomes less apparent.
Your statement is the absolute perfect reason to buy a power plow. All of those mentioned so far retract and can be used as a typical 8' blade. And, YES you do still use the full blade. With the leading wing curved forward as you winrow, I can take an entire blade width with no trailoff, probably up until your row gets over 12-16" deep. At that point it'll still take a full blade for the length of the row, but you'll start to lose a little when you slow down at the end of your run. I'm not talking about driving like an idiot and plowing at 45mph to achieve this either. I usually only run about 20mph MAX depending on the length of the lot I'm in. I hate to seem like I'm beating a dead horse here, but it truly is impressive how much snow these plows will move.
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1st things first is this your first plow truck??what dose your budget allow?? going to plow commercial how big ?? I have been plowing local public schools for 17 yrs. and gotta do a lot of inside walks and handiecapt ramps + big lots+bus drops so little stright blade is good (paid by the hour) 1st two plow trucks were broncos learned how to keep the coners on the second one. got the superduty and had to figure out what to do with the x-3ft. and by the way I can stack snow with this little western high enough that I have to stand on my truck to see over