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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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This is the 4th or 5th post from me regarding my 94 F250 5.8 with 94K miles. It's still missing while at idle or under throttle, I've replaced the fuel filter, plugs, wires, cap and rotor, coil, TPS, battery, fuel additive, left it a a garage for a week and they couldn't find the problem, they called it a "Ghost" we even took it to a reputable repair shop and had a fuel induction service, it's still spitting and dropping out. I have an INNOVA OBD1 code reader and no TDC's showed up. I've looked for chewed up wires from rodents etc. and I still can't figure this out. Thanks to all of you whom have responded in the past.

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Is the idle speed correct when cold/hot?? If it is low-I would suggest cleaning the IAC.

Is the missing constant and continuous-or does it happen just monentarily?? Does it miss under WFT/WOT-with or without load??

I havent read your other posts. Have you done a compression test of the cylinders??
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Thanks for responding phoneman, I did clean the IAC, it had some build up but I cleaned it the best I could. When I cold start the engine and it's running at high RPM's it doesn't miss a beat but once it kicks down is when it starts to miss, cough and sputter. It isn't all the time while running, it will come and go. I haven't done a compression test yet, that's the only thing I haven't done. I believe the INNOVA OBD1 code reader will perform a cylinder performance test. PS, It will spit and sputter while driving down the freeway too.

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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what plugs are you using?

usually the iac needs to be replaced if cleaning does not help.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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I think we put in Autolite plugs, I think I know where you're going with that question, one mechanic mentioned not using cheap plugs. Secondly, I thought about changing out the IAC valve, but thinking about it, would it affect even freeway driving and the same sysmptoms? Thanks for responding
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Have you checked each fuel injector and made sure that all are clicking when the truck is idling. Does it seem like the truck is running on all cylinders--or may it be running on just 7 some of the time??

Is the idle speed normal?? Have you disconnected the IAC wires when the truck is idling-and if so-did the engine die? If not-there may be a vacuum leak.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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are they platinum plugs?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Honeslty, I don't remember, I'll have to pull one out and check.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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The copper autolites work great. I would avoid using the more expensive platinum plugs.

I would put a vacuum gauge on it. You may have a vacuum leak. Also try pulling the codes by hand using the paperclip method. The scanner may or may not be picking up the codes. I don't trust them completely.

Have you cleaned out the throttle body? Checked the voltage on the TPS? My truck ran a lot smoother once I cleaned out the throttle body and put a new TPS on it.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Yes, I cleaned out the throttle body, replaced the TPS, cleaned the IAC etc. Still the same problem, sometimes when I'm lucky it will idle fine, then all of a sudden it starts to act up again. Very frustrating!!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Definitely put a vacuum gauge on it and see what it's pulling. If you have a bad leak or a leaky EGR valve that would cause these problems.
 
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where should I hook the vacuum gauge to? any suggestions? which access point is best?
 
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You can either run a line from an unused port on the vacuum tree on the intake manifold or take the line off the FPR line. Either one will work fine.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Wouldn't the truck idle rough all the time if there were a vacuum leak?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Put a timing light on it, put the timing light pick up on each plug wire one at a time right at or as near the plug you can get it. Closer the better, get it down there.

Aim the light at the bottom of the hood or any dark area and watch the light flash while it runs, does the light flash at a steady rate on each plug wire or is it hit and miss?

If its hit and miss, is it on all cylinders, just one? not all of them but more then one?

Doing this simple easy test well help you narrow down the problem, if you find "hit and miss" flashes on any or all plug wires you have a spark problem, if all are steady flashes never missing a beat, then its a fuel problem.

How many miss will tell you something as well, only on one wire or two wires? Likely to just be the wire/s.
Hit and miss on all the wires, you have a bad distributor or spark control or both.

Badly worn bushings in a distributor will make a motor miss "hit and miss style" or all the time, may come and go too.
 
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