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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Surging Problem

My 48 Ford F1 is surging and dying going down the road but only sometimes.not all of the time.if i pull the choke out it picks back up but onlyfor a minute and then surges some more. i checked the fuel bowl and cleaned it going to the pump.i have not pulled the carb apart yet but could that maybe be what is wrong?it is the original carb from 48 with the metal tag still on it.any suggestions or solutions would be much appreciated.thanks
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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i did put a flame thrower on it but i had these problems before i put it on. and i also have a output problem with the alternator as well
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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First off, 48panel, welcome to the forum. Glad to have you. It sound like the engine is starving for fuel because it gets better when the choke is pulled out. It could be trash in the fuel lines, in the carb, in the tank or the fuel pump could be starting to give up. I would recommend stopping next time it starts to surge and check the fuel bowl (I'm guessing you have the glass one just before the carb), if the fuel bowl is empty, the the problem is up stream from there. If the fuel bowl is full, then I would suspect the carb. Hope this helps. I'm sure others will respond with some ideas and trouble shooting procedures. The other possibility is vapor lock, how long after the engine is started before the surging begins. What is the engine temp.?

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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Well......pulling the choke out reduces the air coming into the engine......so if reducing the air eliminates the surging...... then you are either getting too much air... vacuum leak maybe around carb base or cracked vacuum line............. Or too little gas..... plugged line, filter, carb as suggested above....... IMHO probably a gas problem. My 2 cents worth.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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check the gasket at base of carb with engine running, put some soapy water in a spray bottle and spray around the base of carb, if it sucks the bubbles in under carb, replace the gasket, you can chack the vacuum lines the same way.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Welcome to the forum, the truck your refering to is the panel? That's a beauty I'd love to see more pictures of it. Anyway,how long has it been doing this surging? You might have a simple problem like bad gas, the way gas is going anything is possible..... You could try draining the tank, it might get rid of someting bad. You could disconnect fuel line from fuel pump to carb. and have someone hold a can to catch gas and see how strong that pump is. Your old carb. may also need a rebuild, there are rebuild kits available or there are places that will exchange you for a rebuilt one. There is a member 49Bob or Bob49 who has a panel like yours and is really sharp on them, he could probably give you some pointers on your alternator problem as well. Maybe he will respond-Good Luck
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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hey dylan1952, where can you trade in non-rebuilt carbs for rebuilt one, I might be interested in doing so.
thank you
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Welcome fellow Panel owner, Nice ride, I am a new guy here also and better suited to listen for now.....Good luck
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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well thank you everyone for the suggestions.i will try a couple things tomorrow, (being laid off has some benifits), after i figure it out hopefully i will let everyone know.i did pull the top half of the carb to clean the bowl and blow out the jets, and the gasket looked pretty bad, but it didnt register.as for the pictures i will post the link to them into my signature,for you dylan :-).
 
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Alternator is now fixed. i just need to tackle the fuel problem.ill repost tomorrow
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:34 AM
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mOROTBREATH, I exchanged my carburetor thru Bob's F-100 in Riverside ,Calif. Good luck on your motor.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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awww no WAY, I live in Bakersfield, right on, that might acuallty be feasable for me. Thank you so much for the help and info dylan1952.......oh, and would you happen to have the area code and phone number? Thank you again.

And I hope you're able to easily fix that fuel issue 48 panel, good luck.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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i took the carb to a carb shop to have it looked at and the gaskets were torn and the power valve was blown.i should have it back by the end of next week and hopefully all will be fixed by then.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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48-panel, welcome to the forum! while carb is off, check fuel lines for cracking. the new fuel can, and does, eat up rubber much quicker than most think. it also woudn't hurt to put 1 oz. of marvel mystery oil in EACH tank of fuel. this will lube entire fuel system and keep valve system clean, also protecting valve seats.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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i got the carb back today and i put it back on.i thought all was good but then i got down the road and sure enough when it warmed up , the surging BEGAN!!! grrr..... i checked the fuel bowl as soon as it surged and died and it was full.im stuck.
 
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