Wrangler Silent Armor or Michelin LTX A/TII?
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Wrangler Silent Armor or Michelin LTX A/TII?
Need tires for the beast. I'm going to run 265s.
I know there are many tire threads on this board, but my needs may be a little different from the typical Excursion owner's needs.
I tow light loads and only casually. Meaning maybe I'll rent a u-haul to trailer a bike somewhere. So I don't need the top towing tire.
Primary concerns are snow/ice traction and quiet ride. Since I only drive this truck seven or eight thousand miles a year, the tires I get now may be the last I get for a while.
Between the Wrangler Silent Armor and the Michelin LTX II, which would you get? Or would you get something else?
Thanks.
I know there are many tire threads on this board, but my needs may be a little different from the typical Excursion owner's needs.
I tow light loads and only casually. Meaning maybe I'll rent a u-haul to trailer a bike somewhere. So I don't need the top towing tire.
Primary concerns are snow/ice traction and quiet ride. Since I only drive this truck seven or eight thousand miles a year, the tires I get now may be the last I get for a while.
Between the Wrangler Silent Armor and the Michelin LTX II, which would you get? Or would you get something else?
Thanks.
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Need tires for the beast. I'm going to run 265s.
I know there are many tire threads on this board, but my needs may be a little different from the typical Excursion owner's needs.
I tow light loads and only casually. Meaning maybe I'll rent a u-haul to trailer a bike somewhere. So I don't need the top towing tire.
Primary concerns are snow/ice traction and quiet ride. Since I only drive this truck seven or eight thousand miles a year, the tires I get now may be the last I get for a while.
Between the Wrangler Silent Armor and the Michelin LTX II, which would you get? Or would you get something else?
Thanks.
I know there are many tire threads on this board, but my needs may be a little different from the typical Excursion owner's needs.
I tow light loads and only casually. Meaning maybe I'll rent a u-haul to trailer a bike somewhere. So I don't need the top towing tire.
Primary concerns are snow/ice traction and quiet ride. Since I only drive this truck seven or eight thousand miles a year, the tires I get now may be the last I get for a while.
Between the Wrangler Silent Armor and the Michelin LTX II, which would you get? Or would you get something else?
Thanks.
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While I don't have an Excursion....I do have some SDs and F-150s that I've ran a variety of tires on over the years.
By far the best tire I've run in the snow so far is the Goodyear Silent Armor.
I have the Pro Grades on my 07 F-350 (325/60R18) and the standard Silent Armors on the 99 F-150 (275/70R17).
I've ran BFG AT KOs on my 01 for a few winters when it was smaller as well.
The Silent Armors grip very well in the Chicagoland winters (I'm in N. IL by the WI border).
I think I have ~30,000 miles on the Silent Armors on the F-150 with more than half tread and I have 28,000 on the Pro Grades on the F-350 with about half tread (truck tows heavy and hauls heavy a lot).
I haven't run the Michelin to compare them.
By far the best tire I've run in the snow so far is the Goodyear Silent Armor.
I have the Pro Grades on my 07 F-350 (325/60R18) and the standard Silent Armors on the 99 F-150 (275/70R17).
I've ran BFG AT KOs on my 01 for a few winters when it was smaller as well.
The Silent Armors grip very well in the Chicagoland winters (I'm in N. IL by the WI border).
I think I have ~30,000 miles on the Silent Armors on the F-150 with more than half tread and I have 28,000 on the Pro Grades on the F-350 with about half tread (truck tows heavy and hauls heavy a lot).
I haven't run the Michelin to compare them.
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Timely post...I am evaluating the same two tire alternatives and have similar driving profile. However, I have been pretty happy with the OEM BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A's...nearly 84,000 miles on them and still have decent tread depth (sidewall cracking is more the problem). I am leaning towards the Michelin LTX AT2's based on ride comfort, road noise survey ratings on the Tire Rack site? Look forward to the everyone's response!!
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When I was tire shopping I read all the reviews on TireRack. I saw that the SA's were really good with traction on ice/snow/mud so that was one of my reasons for getting them. I also saw that the noise and comfort were really rated high. I never did compare the Michelins though just compared the SA's with BFG's.
I haven't driven more the 4 miles at a time since I got mine so I cant make a judgement. I will be traveling 300+ miles this weekend so I should be able to get a good feel for them.
I haven't driven more the 4 miles at a time since I got mine so I cant make a judgement. I will be traveling 300+ miles this weekend so I should be able to get a good feel for them.
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Tire Size: LT265/75R16
Service Description: 123R
Sidewall: OWL - Outlined White Letters
Material Number or MSPN: 748746189
Rim width: 7.0-8.0
Section Width: 10.43
Overall Diameter 31.65
Tread Depth (32nds): 16
RPM: 656
Max Load: 3,415@80
UTQG Rating:
Treadwear: 520
Traction: A
Temperature: B
Description from the Goodyear site is below. Everything seems to be the same, considering that some of the numbers have been rounded.
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#999999"><td class="hdWhite11pt" width="15%">Tire Size</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="8%">Load Range</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Service Description</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Sidewall</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Approved Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Meas. Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Section Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Outside Diameter </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Max Load </td> <!-- remove comment if they want to trun MSRP back on <td width="11%" class="hdWhite11pt">M.S.R.P.*</td> --> </tr> <tr class="ODD"> <td class="hdGrey8pt">LT265/75R16 ♦</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> E</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">123R</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">OWL</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">7.0 - 8.0</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 7.50</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 10.5</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 31.7</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 3,415 @ 80</td></tr></tbody></table>
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Good point. Here is the spec from Sams Club. I'm pretty sure it's an E rated tire with a "service description" of 123R.
Tire Size: LT265/75R16
Service Description: 123R
Sidewall: OWL - Outlined White Letters
Material Number or MSPN: 748746189
Rim width: 7.0-8.0
Section Width: 10.43
Overall Diameter 31.65
Tread Depth (32nds): 16
RPM: 656
Max Load: 3,415@80
UTQG Rating:
Treadwear: 520
Traction: A
Temperature: B
Description from the Goodyear site is below. Everything seems to be the same, considering that some of the numbers have been rounded.
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#999999"><td class="hdWhite11pt" width="15%">Tire Size</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="8%">Load Range</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Service Description</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Sidewall</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Approved Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Meas. Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Section Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Outside Diameter </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Max Load </td> <!-- remove comment if they want to trun MSRP back on <td width="11%" class="hdWhite11pt">M.S.R.P.*</td> --> </tr> <tr class="ODD"> <td class="hdGrey8pt">LT265/75R16 ♦</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> E</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">123R</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">OWL</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">7.0 - 8.0</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 7.50</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 10.5</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 31.7</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 3,415 @ 80</td></tr></tbody></table>
Tire Size: LT265/75R16
Service Description: 123R
Sidewall: OWL - Outlined White Letters
Material Number or MSPN: 748746189
Rim width: 7.0-8.0
Section Width: 10.43
Overall Diameter 31.65
Tread Depth (32nds): 16
RPM: 656
Max Load: 3,415@80
UTQG Rating:
Treadwear: 520
Traction: A
Temperature: B
Description from the Goodyear site is below. Everything seems to be the same, considering that some of the numbers have been rounded.
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#999999"><td class="hdWhite11pt" width="15%">Tire Size</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="8%">Load Range</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Service Description</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Sidewall</td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Approved Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Meas. Rim Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="9%">Section Width </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="11%">Outside Diameter </td> <td class="hdWhite11pt" width="13%">Max Load </td> <!-- remove comment if they want to trun MSRP back on <td width="11%" class="hdWhite11pt">M.S.R.P.*</td> --> </tr> <tr class="ODD"> <td class="hdGrey8pt">LT265/75R16 ♦</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> E</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">123R</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">OWL</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt">7.0 - 8.0</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 7.50</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 10.5</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 31.7</td> <td class="hdGrey8pt"> 3,415 @ 80</td></tr></tbody></table>
I don't know about the Silent Armors.....but I know most of the other tires that Sams and Wal-Mart carry are their own tire as mentioned.
So, you can only go to a Sams or Wal-Mart for warranty issues vs. a Goodyear Store.
Like I said, I don't know for sure in the case of the Silent Armor....just know that about other tires since the shop I use is a Goodyear shop