CEL still on - help
95 F250 7.3L 226,000 miles / auto /no mods
When cold fires right up and idles perfect with no CEL on. Can drive it for 10 minutes at highway speeds and runs perfectly, park in yard and idles fine then 3 minutes in truck stalls and dies. Can crank it right back up but CEL is on and when volt delay ends runs like s--t ( have to throttle her to keep running) then CEL goes out and idles fine for 3 minutes and engine dies. I can repeat over and over.
Code pulled is P0341 - CMP performance fault / CMP camshaft pos sensor chk performance, electric noise detected harness routing,charging chk,sensor
Parts replaced so far with this problem are:
CMP sensor
rt v/c gskt
2 UVCH harnesses (pin1 was burnt)
4 glow plugs (cyl 3 ohmed OL; all others tested OK)
postive battery cable unit
alternator
GPR
batteries / Interstate-3 months old
I have pulled fuel filter and cleaned FPR screen; it was some what dirty but not clogged. When I reinstalled filter engine ran terrible and idle was up and down. I went to drain bowl and no fuel discharged; it only drained after removing filter (that has never happen before). Reinstalled and idle was back to normal but still with CEL problem. Oil level is fine and has been changed 1000 miles ago.
I have read every thread relating to stalls,fuel delivery,CEL on,etc and have many areas to check but hate to keep on buying parts in hopes of a fix.
HELP
Replace the sensor again. They can fail right out of the box. At least it's cheap to do now, about $15.
Possibly IPR o rings need to be replaced.
No start at times; Intermittent stalling while driving during warm-up or when hot, usually restarts; Power "hitch" at cruise or under load; Possible DTC#'s P0340, P0341, P0344:
Cam Position (CMP) sensor.
The CMP sensor provides the PCM with cylinder ID and engine RPM. Sometimes hard to detect, even with a scan tool while monitoring the RPM signal. If the PCM does not receive a clear CMP signal, it won't signal the Injector Driver Module (IDM) to energize the injector solenoids.
If this symptom occurs, or if you find one or more of the above codes, check the wiring to the CMP for continuity--BOB pin 90 to CMP pin B; BOB pin 65 to CMP pin A; BOB pin 49 to CMP pin C. NOTE: A code P0344 may be set any time the engine is cranked for an excessive period of time. Early CMP sensors were @ 1.152" in length, and with the different materials--plastic sensor, aluminum timing cover, steel tone ring) the air gap would change drastically during engine warm-up. There were TSB's published for shimming the sensors 0.010" to cure these problems as well as the drastic repair of replacing the camshaft--something a Navistar tech assist rep recommended not doing even if excessive end play was verified. There have been two updates to the CMP. One to decrease the length to 1.142", and also to improve the internal circuitry for less "noise". The CMP designed for engines built after serial number 375549 have gold-plated terminals and cannot be substituted with those designed for previous engines.
94-96 CMP: F6TZ-12K073-A; original Navistar part suffix C-96, C-97; replaced by C-98; replaced by C-99
97 CMP: F7TZ-12K073-A; early suffix C-91; replaced by late suffix C-92; both replaced by C-93.
The suffix is stamped on the connector end of the CMP and can be used to identify the level of the part installed. Replace any CMP's with a suffex of C-96, 97, 91 if these symptoms are experienced. Lube the o-ring and connector with silicone dielectric grease when installing.
I'm heading back to Ford in the morning to figure this one out and my question would be if I installed the shorter CMP instead of the longer version I removed would this create my problem.
Still banging my head but haven't given up!
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The only way I know to check that would be to connect an o-scope and watch the data line real time, although I've never tried it.
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Thanks to everyone for there help.
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