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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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fuel issues

Can you guys do me a favor and go look at my question in the 335 serirs forum?(don't know how to link it) No answer there so I'll try the omniscient ones.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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probably vapor locking.

When it gets hot is it hard to crank and have no power past 2-3000 rpm? Let it cool 10-15min and it cranks right up?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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no, cranks over fine. hot or warm. That was my first thought, but why would that drain the fuel filter? Spits and sputters at all rpms. Downshifting didn't help.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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no fuel in the filter probably bc its evaporating.

ask Kjett (Karl)
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Check and make sure the fuel lines are clean, and not kinked anywhere if rubber lines are used.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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You didn't say if its a mechanical or electric pump, or where it's located. Also are you running an inline regulator anywhere? I need a little more info to help diagnose your problem. A common thing if it an electric pump located back near the tank is that if you run it to a dead headed regulator, the pump will get hot and die. When it cools, you get fuel feed again until the pump gets got again and it looses pressure. Just a thought.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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mech. pump in stock location, no regulator. No hoses pinched or kinked,and all new. Hard lines newer in stock locations. I get fuel to the hard line connected to the low press. side of the pump when it acts up. If it is plugged, its between the tank diverter valve and the fuel pump. I haven't had time to look at it yet. Should be doing it now but I want a few ideas.

However, my hard lines look like what the quote in my sig. says. Been that way a while working fine though.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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How about the carb inlet? Have to screw it out and check it. Happened to me once, full of gunk.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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that would fill the fuel filter though. The thing that makes me wonder is the high load/high vacuum condition that causes it. Secondarys open and power valve opens=way more fuel required. Anything there spark intrest?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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I just went through this issue on my Uncles 79. He has a 460 that ran well in the winter time, and as the weather got warmer, he would spit and sputter and be fuel starved. We ended up putting a small electric pump back near the tank to help keep up with the demand that the motor needed. If you said the pump had worked well in the past, your pump may be dying out and not pumping enough fuel when it gets hot. As a quick and easy test. run a temporary line to a 1 gallon tank that is near the pump, start the truck up and let it get warm. Idle it up and watch what happens to see if it starts to suck the filter dry. If you don't see a problem there, next thing is to check your lines or your sump. Possible you got trash in the tank and during times of high demand it just coincidentally clogs the sump.
 
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I was wondering if it was getting to hot by the fuel pump because of the headers. The pump is only 3yrs old maybe. Don't remember what brand it was.
 
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Maybe I'll try the can of gas thing. but hard to simulate a high vacuum condition in the driveway. Just sitting after being restarted it revs fine.
 
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If it's a mechanical pump, then a "high vacuum" situation on the motor would not have any effect on the pump. It is operated by a shaft that goes from the pump to the eccentric on the front of the cam shaft, not vacuum. What I was referring to about the pump dying out was not a heat issue, just the pump itself going bad. They vanes inside the pump may have a crack that expands when the heat of driving are there. Mechanical pumps had their day, but I prefer the simplicity and ease of an electric pump. 2 Wires to the ignition switch circuit, an inlet and outlet lines, and a return line regulator to make the pump run more efficiently and cooler. Nothing better!
 
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Yeah, I know how the pump works. The high vacuum I was refering to,(should have been low manifold vacuum) would open the secondarys and the power valve for more fuel into the main system of the carb. Hate to go buy an elect. pump if I am not sure of the problem. Kind of think it's the pump though.

Return line regulator? What return line?
 
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It's mainly an electric pump thing where the pressure from the pump needs are regulator. Most people just run a dead head regulator between the pump and the carb, this causes the pump to run hot over time and eventually will burn out. The solution is to run a return style regulator that will do the same job as the deadhead style, with the added bonus that the un-needed fuel that would just sit in the line getting hot, is recirculated back to the tank. The result is the pump will run cooler and more efficient and your fuel temps will be lower as another result. I've posted this before, but check here for more info:

Century Performance Center, Inc. :: Fuelish Tendencies - Understanding Fuel Pressure and Volume
 
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