epa vs. tuner co. rumor
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epa vs. tuner co. rumor
i read on fordpowerstrokeforum.com from a ford diesel mechanic that the epa has gone to all tuner companies and told them to stop all dpf delete programs or risk heavy fines or possibly even the closure of their businesses..............
anybody hear anything about this???
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anybody hear anything about this???
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They shouldnt b able to do that, the tuner companies would have to label there product for "off high way use only " and that would be about it. I dont think they can do anything about off highway vechicles
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If they can't do anything about off highway vehicles why are lawn mowers, chain saws, etc. subject to EPA regulation?
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i read on fordpowerstrokeforum.com from a ford diesel mechanic that the epa has gone to all tuner companies and told them to stop all dpf delete programs or risk heavy fines or possibly even the closure of their businesses..............
anybody hear anything about this???
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I will vote for BS on this. How long have companies been selling full exhaust kits with no cats? Smog pump eliminators on Mustangs? Camshafts, cylinder heads, intakes, carburetors, do I really need to keep going?? If the EPA were to pick a fight with the aftermarket about removing emmissions equipment they better be ready for one huge fight because this business is a whole lot bigger than tuners DPF deletes on diesels.
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I will vote for BS on this. How long have companies been selling full exhaust kits with no cats? Smog pump eliminators on Mustangs? Camshafts, cylinder heads, intakes, carburetors, do I really need to keep going?? If the EPA were to pick a fight with the aftermarket about removing emmissions equipment they better be ready for one huge fight because this business is a whole lot bigger than tuners DPF deletes on diesels.
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I wouldn't see how the EPA could go after the tuner manufaturers. Only way I see the EPA keeping the DPFs on street vehicles is to make a federal law and the vehicle have to have a dpf and cat on to pass inspections just like gassers. IMO the EPA is getting too tight with the emmission standards.
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Without the EPA's involvement we would all be getting 20 mpg, The supply of diesel fuel would be over flowing the holding tanks and the price would be $1.50/gallon as stations begged all the truckers to buy more. OK, maybe thats a bit of a stretch.
Without the EPA we would all be driving 7.3's. Thats a fact. Can you imagine the 7.3 with a 4 valve head, the torqshift tranny, and the latest injection system? WOW! Well imagine is all we can do in either case because the wonderful EPA thinks they are helping somehow.
Without the EPA we would all be driving 7.3's. Thats a fact. Can you imagine the 7.3 with a 4 valve head, the torqshift tranny, and the latest injection system? WOW! Well imagine is all we can do in either case because the wonderful EPA thinks they are helping somehow.
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Without the EPA's involvement we would all be getting 20 mpg, The supply of diesel fuel would be over flowing the holding tanks and the price would be $1.50/gallon as stations begged all the truckers to buy more. OK, maybe thats a bit of a stretch.
Without the EPA we would all be driving 7.3's. Thats a fact. Can you imagine the 7.3 with a 4 valve head, the torqshift tranny, and the latest injection system? WOW! Well imagine is all we can do in either case because the wonderful EPA thinks they are helping somehow.
Without the EPA we would all be driving 7.3's. Thats a fact. Can you imagine the 7.3 with a 4 valve head, the torqshift tranny, and the latest injection system? WOW! Well imagine is all we can do in either case because the wonderful EPA thinks they are helping somehow.
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When talking with car owners or even non-diesel truck owners, the reaction is always the same when I mention that dpf deletes gain 3-5mpg, (according to those who have done this). They always say "how stupid", or "how does the epa justify that?".
I actually like that my truck is cleaner, but even my 96 5.9 didn't smoke much. So I really wonder how much these things help. Probably the ULSD helps more than the dpfs in terms of soot.
However, I will make a prediction that we will be missing the good ol dpf days if urea-spraying trucks hit the street.
I wouldn't doubt that the epa has THOUGHT about going after aftermarket exhaust/performance sales, but yeah, that is a big market and it would be an extended battle.
I actually like that my truck is cleaner, but even my 96 5.9 didn't smoke much. So I really wonder how much these things help. Probably the ULSD helps more than the dpfs in terms of soot.
However, I will make a prediction that we will be missing the good ol dpf days if urea-spraying trucks hit the street.
I wouldn't doubt that the epa has THOUGHT about going after aftermarket exhaust/performance sales, but yeah, that is a big market and it would be an extended battle.