Something I was wonder about
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Something I was wonder about
I was thinking about this today and thought I'd run it past the knowledgeable members of the board.
If I wanted to attend a show with my '49 F-2 that was 100 miles away, and I want to take three other people with me, and since I can only fit two people in the cab of my '49's cab comfortably, would it be more economical to take both my daily driver, a '04 four door half ton truck and my F-2 separately or, would load my F-2 onto my trailer and trailer it to the show? I would figure it would it be cheaper to trailer the truck? But then again, I will be using one vehicle to move twice as much weight. I know you would have to consider how efficient each vehicle was but what if you took two identical vehicles and did the same thing? Would it be cheaper to drive two separate identical vehicles or trailer one?
It's just something I was thinking about today and thought I would pick your brains.
If I wanted to attend a show with my '49 F-2 that was 100 miles away, and I want to take three other people with me, and since I can only fit two people in the cab of my '49's cab comfortably, would it be more economical to take both my daily driver, a '04 four door half ton truck and my F-2 separately or, would load my F-2 onto my trailer and trailer it to the show? I would figure it would it be cheaper to trailer the truck? But then again, I will be using one vehicle to move twice as much weight. I know you would have to consider how efficient each vehicle was but what if you took two identical vehicles and did the same thing? Would it be cheaper to drive two separate identical vehicles or trailer one?
It's just something I was thinking about today and thought I would pick your brains.
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Bob,
I say, suck it up and squeeze 3 people in the cab. I know you have 2 strapping young lads, so either both boys want to go to the show with you and the little woman is staying home or one of the boys is staying home and the little woman is going. Either way, you can fit 3 people in the cab...
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I say, suck it up and squeeze 3 people in the cab. I know you have 2 strapping young lads, so either both boys want to go to the show with you and the little woman is staying home or one of the boys is staying home and the little woman is going. Either way, you can fit 3 people in the cab...
Go for it
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Bod, That is really a hard thing to chose from. B/c I like to drive to the show but if people is going with me I also like to ride together so we can talk. If it was me I would probbaly trailer the truck down so everyone could ride together and talk, plus you can make better time b/c you can run alot faster down there and have plenty of time to clean on your truck some. If your 49 was like my 51, about 55-60 mph is all you want to push it on the road. But it still would be fun to drive it. See... you still have me thinking about it. Let us know what you do. Take some pics!!
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It depends on gas milage. For example:
Say the 04 get 20 miles to the gallon with no trailer. It takes 5 gallons each way (100/20) so 10 gallons is $40. Let say the 49 gets 15 miles to the gallon, it takes 6.67 gallons each way, so 13.3 gallons is $53. So both cars is $53+$40 = $93.
If the 04 get only 10 miles per gallon pulling a trailer, then it takes 20 gallons to make the round trip or a total of $80.
So if the milages I estimated are close, you save $13 using the trailer, but you have to load and unload the trailer.
I used $4 per gallon.
Hope this helps.
Say the 04 get 20 miles to the gallon with no trailer. It takes 5 gallons each way (100/20) so 10 gallons is $40. Let say the 49 gets 15 miles to the gallon, it takes 6.67 gallons each way, so 13.3 gallons is $53. So both cars is $53+$40 = $93.
If the 04 get only 10 miles per gallon pulling a trailer, then it takes 20 gallons to make the round trip or a total of $80.
So if the milages I estimated are close, you save $13 using the trailer, but you have to load and unload the trailer.
I used $4 per gallon.
Hope this helps.
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It's been my experience that towing something heavy but "relatively" streamlined (even your F-2) doesn't hurt gas mileage on the highway very much, unless there are a bunch of big hills. Towing a travel trailer that is like a barn door (wind resistance) is what really kills gas mileage. Once you get a heavy load moving it take s very little more to keep moving.
I'd bet it drops the mileage on the '04 from 16 to about 14, assuming it's mostly highway. If it's state roads, could be worse (stoplights). No question in my mind, towing is cheaper. Or if it's like my old '78 Camper Special w/460, it will get 10 mpg loaded or unloaded, babying it or standing on it, towing my F-1 or hauling 3 bags of groceries...
I'd bet it drops the mileage on the '04 from 16 to about 14, assuming it's mostly highway. If it's state roads, could be worse (stoplights). No question in my mind, towing is cheaper. Or if it's like my old '78 Camper Special w/460, it will get 10 mpg loaded or unloaded, babying it or standing on it, towing my F-1 or hauling 3 bags of groceries...
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Like 48 COE said, I believe you have enough time to make an extended cab before Sept. lol.
Seriously though, in light of the number of people, and gas prices, I'd trailer the F2 to the show. 16mpg (2004)+14mpg (1949)averages out to 15mpg divided into two vehicles moved =7.5mpg out of pocket. Trailering the 49 would most certainly be better than 7.5mpg for the '04 truck towing. Economical sense, for an economical mess we have these days.
Seriously though, in light of the number of people, and gas prices, I'd trailer the F2 to the show. 16mpg (2004)+14mpg (1949)averages out to 15mpg divided into two vehicles moved =7.5mpg out of pocket. Trailering the 49 would most certainly be better than 7.5mpg for the '04 truck towing. Economical sense, for an economical mess we have these days.
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I posted this as a theorectical question, most times I go to shows with just one person because no one in my family enjoys the old truck hobby and would rather sit at home and watch the corn grow, their lose.
Anyways, I was thinking about it yesterday, tells you what a boring life I lead. I was just wondering about the viability of going either way and which one would more efficient. As for comfort, trailering is a lot more comfortable on the long drives but I also like to take the side roads with the F-2. You get to see more and my ego is pumped a lot more when driving one of my old trucks than when I drive my daily driver. I have never noticed anyone giving me a thumbs up or asking "What year is it?" when I'm in my daily driver. I figure it this way, if the old truck breaks down on the side of the the road, which it has never done, I can call my wife, one of the above mentioned corn watchers, and have her bring the trailer to come get me.
Anyways, I was thinking about it yesterday, tells you what a boring life I lead. I was just wondering about the viability of going either way and which one would more efficient. As for comfort, trailering is a lot more comfortable on the long drives but I also like to take the side roads with the F-2. You get to see more and my ego is pumped a lot more when driving one of my old trucks than when I drive my daily driver. I have never noticed anyone giving me a thumbs up or asking "What year is it?" when I'm in my daily driver. I figure it this way, if the old truck breaks down on the side of the the road, which it has never done, I can call my wife, one of the above mentioned corn watchers, and have her bring the trailer to come get me.
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You could stay home and attend a show near your home. Either way, 100 miles round trip is going to be expensive with today's gas prices. I have a 98 F150, went to Las Vegas last week and it cost me $80 in gas one way. 240 miles from my house to Las Vegas. My wife flew up a day before I left and her flight ticket cost $65 and it took her 45 minutes to get there. I spent 4 hours on the road, fried my transmission oil from the 110 degree temps, needed to purchases a new Mass Air flow sensor because my "check engine" light came on (which I didn't need!). The trip ended costing me about $400.00. Not to mention the costs of food, etc. Good thing I didn't gamble... LOL
What's the price for enjoyment? The Western nationals is about 100 miles from me. This is a once a year event, so I wouldn't hesitate driving my 56 there. Afterall, it's a F100 show. Besides being a great show, the fun is driving along several other F100's on the highway and waving to everyone. I guess what I'm saying is.... if cost is not a factor, I'd take the F2. I'd also go by myself, and take pictures for the corn growers back home. Not sure if I'm helping here???
What's the price for enjoyment? The Western nationals is about 100 miles from me. This is a once a year event, so I wouldn't hesitate driving my 56 there. Afterall, it's a F100 show. Besides being a great show, the fun is driving along several other F100's on the highway and waving to everyone. I guess what I'm saying is.... if cost is not a factor, I'd take the F2. I'd also go by myself, and take pictures for the corn growers back home. Not sure if I'm helping here???
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Bob - I've trailered my old wrecks long distances, and my gas mileage loaded isn't that much worse than on the highway with no trailer. Except, like Ross said, in the hill or mountain areas. Of course I'm dealing with a 460/4.11 gear that isn't really working that hard pulling on flat ground.
If your theoretical show is at the Dells, you'll have the same problem when you get there and want to go on the tour. You'll still have to leave somebody home, or like Penn Dick said, build a shipping crate for the boys. You'd hate for them to miss that apple pie!
If your theoretical show is at the Dells, you'll have the same problem when you get there and want to go on the tour. You'll still have to leave somebody home, or like Penn Dick said, build a shipping crate for the boys. You'd hate for them to miss that apple pie!
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Reading the posts is this thread (interesting subject) and without trying to get too philosophical I remembered that going to many car shows, that the journey is as important, if not more so, then the destination. Just like life, huh? Isn’t a key part the sense of achievement of having successfully survived a road trip in something that you built? Anyone can tow a trailer but it takes real guts (and dumbness) to drive an old vehicle!
But what do I know?
But what do I know?
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Stu,
It depends what my schedule is on the day of the Dells show. The last two years I worked until the wee hours of the morning, got a few hours of sleep and made it just after noon on Saturday. I ended up trailering both times just to save time and the aggrevation compounded by lack of sleep.
One year I trailered the F-2 Friday morning to land I own about 15 miles from the Dells and then drove to the Dells. This worked out great because I was able to drive into the Dells like all the others, I was able to stay late and come back early the next morning. I think I might do something like that this year but I just might drive the entire distance. I hope to find some one to go with who will drive one of the trucks.
It depends what my schedule is on the day of the Dells show. The last two years I worked until the wee hours of the morning, got a few hours of sleep and made it just after noon on Saturday. I ended up trailering both times just to save time and the aggrevation compounded by lack of sleep.
One year I trailered the F-2 Friday morning to land I own about 15 miles from the Dells and then drove to the Dells. This worked out great because I was able to drive into the Dells like all the others, I was able to stay late and come back early the next morning. I think I might do something like that this year but I just might drive the entire distance. I hope to find some one to go with who will drive one of the trucks.
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Reading the posts is this thread (interesting subject) and without trying to get too philosophical I remembered that going to many car shows, that the journey is as important, if not more so, then the destination. Just like life, huh? Isn’t a key part the sense of achievement of having successfully survived a road trip in something that you built? Anyone can tow a trailer but it takes real guts (and dumbness) to drive an old vehicle!
But what do I know?
But what do I know?
