Twist on Fuel System
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
From: Dickson, Tennessee
Twist on Fuel System
I don't know if it is a good idea or not.....but.
I have read on this site and many other sites about regulated fuel systems the pro's and con's (no dead head, flow tru.etc.). I have also read about the in tank mods, and all the issues of air in the fuel, fuel temp, pre-pump filters and so on. it seems that every thing involves the pump being required to draw fuel from the tank under vacuum and the problems with air entering thru the factory fittings when under vacuum, and issues of pump temp. OK has anybody looked at or tried a in tank pump like all fuel injected gas trucks have and then regulated to the proper pressure at the motor? Seems like this would help keep pump and fule cooler and greatlt limit the interduction of air in the system because the pump is submerged. Sorry being long winded just always thinking.
Thanks
I have read on this site and many other sites about regulated fuel systems the pro's and con's (no dead head, flow tru.etc.). I have also read about the in tank mods, and all the issues of air in the fuel, fuel temp, pre-pump filters and so on. it seems that every thing involves the pump being required to draw fuel from the tank under vacuum and the problems with air entering thru the factory fittings when under vacuum, and issues of pump temp. OK has anybody looked at or tried a in tank pump like all fuel injected gas trucks have and then regulated to the proper pressure at the motor? Seems like this would help keep pump and fule cooler and greatlt limit the interduction of air in the system because the pump is submerged. Sorry being long winded just always thinking.
Thanks
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 26,966
Likes: 50
From: Texas
Yep. It's been discussed before. Here's how kwik did his.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...-the-tank.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...-the-tank.html
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,499
Likes: 10
From: Sterling Heights,Mi
Please know, just poking, promise, no insult was inteneded. I was sincere when I said great Idea!! you will fit nicely in this forum!! You couldnt find a better group of people!!
Fleet Owner
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
We only poke fun at people we like. 
Welcome to FTE, and yes you will be glad to have your fuel pump in the tank.
It is a MUCH better way of doing it and according to the laws of nature, which BTW cannot be broken (tried to fly without wings lately? ), it is much easier to push the fuel toward the engine than to try and pull it toward the fuel pump.
That reason alone is what prompted me to migrate the fuel pump to the tank.
Welcome to FTE, and yes you will be glad to have your fuel pump in the tank.
It is a MUCH better way of doing it and according to the laws of nature, which BTW cannot be broken (tried to fly without wings lately?
), it is much easier to push the fuel toward the engine than to try and pull it toward the fuel pump.That reason alone is what prompted me to migrate the fuel pump to the tank.
Hook it, I'll pull it.
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 15,037
Likes: 4
From: Grand Lake, La.
We only poke fun at people we like.
Welcome to FTE, and yes you will be glad to have your fuel pump in the tank.
It is a MUCH better way of doing it and according to the laws of nature, which BTW cannot be broken (tried to fly without wings lately? ), it is much easier to push the fuel toward the engine than to try and pull it toward the fuel pump.
That reason alone is what prompted me to migrate the fuel pump to the tank.
Welcome to FTE, and yes you will be glad to have your fuel pump in the tank.
It is a MUCH better way of doing it and according to the laws of nature, which BTW cannot be broken (tried to fly without wings lately?
), it is much easier to push the fuel toward the engine than to try and pull it toward the fuel pump.That reason alone is what prompted me to migrate the fuel pump to the tank.
Yeah, I tried to push a chain in a straight line, ain't going to happen.
Trending Topics
Hotshot
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 17,988
Likes: 207
From: La La Land
Kwik,
I recall during the initial discussion there was some concern about the wire's insulation not being diesel-rated.
Have you pursued that further?
Pop
I recall during the initial discussion there was some concern about the wire's insulation not being diesel-rated.
Have you pursued that further?
Pop
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
Fleet Owner
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Those same two wires are still sitting on the shelf in the back room and the insulation is still just like the day that I put it in there.
That was what???, two years ago by now?
So I have decided that the insulation issue is really a non-issue.
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,010
Likes: 5
From: Johnson City, TN.
Kwik, do you have a pump for each tank?
Do you have dual tanks? Guess I shoulda asked that first.
I didn't get to read the whole thing but I will tomorrow. Definately. Too close to time to log off.
Do you have dual tanks? Guess I shoulda asked that first.
I didn't get to read the whole thing but I will tomorrow. Definately. Too close to time to log off.
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
So for clarification Dan- when doing this you leave the stock pump in place, correct? And you also need to do the Hutch Mod to avoid air in the lines as I understand.
I need to drop my tank to inspect the pick-up for blockage and I'd like to just tackle everything at once while I'm in there. Dropping that 55 gallon steel tank should be a fun job
I need to drop my tank to inspect the pick-up for blockage and I'd like to just tackle everything at once while I'm in there. Dropping that 55 gallon steel tank should be a fun job
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
From: Dickson, Tennessee
Kwikk. what pump did you use?
I found a delphi pump rated for diesel for in tank applications rate at 160 lph @ 600 kPa pressure. I don't know what specs. are required as for GPM or PSI.
Any specs would be great.
Thanks
I found a delphi pump rated for diesel for in tank applications rate at 160 lph @ 600 kPa pressure. I don't know what specs. are required as for GPM or PSI.
Any specs would be great.
Thanks
Hotshot
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 17,988
Likes: 207
From: La La Land
For those of you that haven't read it yet (and it's obvious some haven't), go back up to post #2 of this thread and click on the link and read it for yourselves. A LOT of good information there.
Pop
Pop
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 26,966
Likes: 50
From: Texas
Not a problem about being late. Besides, isn't it nice to have an idea your thinking about turn out to be a good one. Even better is someone has already done it, posted instructions on how to do it, and included pictures. Since he's been running it for 2 years without problems, your idea just went from concept to proven in a short time. Thanks to Dan's work, you can do this with no worries.
