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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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4x4 Hubcaps

I did a search of past threads for hubcap info but came up short on info, hopefully someone can help. Does anyone have a photo they can post of the correct hubcaps used on a 66 F250 4x4? There was some information that said they didn't come with hubcaps, another said they were only on the back. Either way, I'm not sure what style I should be looking for. It is a custom cab if that makes any difference. I also found somewhere in an old thread that the production numbers for this truck were under 200 according to the ford red book which I am not familiar with. Can anyone help confirm the production figure? I wouldn't have thought it would be that low.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by modeleh
I did a search of past threads for hubcap info but came up short on info, hopefully someone can help. Does anyone have a photo they can post of the correct hubcaps used on a 66 F250 4x4? There was some information that said they didn't come with hubcaps, another said they were only on the back. Either way, I'm not sure what style I should be looking for. It is a custom cab if that makes any difference.
I also found somewhere in an old thread that the production numbers for this truck were under 200 according to the ford red book which I am not familiar with. Can anyone help confirm the production figure? I wouldn't have thought it would be that low.
The figures and other data in that book are wrong. It's a book offered to fans of Ford trucks, it's not produced by FoMoCo.
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No front hubcaps were offered on 1959/66 F250 4WD's. Some F250 4WD's have them on the rear, some do not.

According to the parts catalog illustrations and the factory photos I have, the caps were painted, not stainless like the 2WD Custom Cabs used.

The rear caps (called bottlecaps by some ppl) are identical in appearance to the type used on Standard Cab F100 2WD's, but are deeper to clear the rear axle hub and are larger in diameter.

These caps fit inside the wheel center and are retained by spring clips that are riveted to the wheel. Another term for these are "innies."

The F100 caps are 9 1/2" in diameter, the F250's are 10 1/2" in diameter.

Look in the member photo galleries for pics of these caps....they are either painted argent (silver) or white and use block letters F O R D in the center painted red. There are 12 depressions shaped similar to this: \_/ (turn example around 180 degrees) around the outside.

Official FoMoCo 1966 F250 4WD production figures: Cab & Chassis: 644 / Platform & Rack (Stake Bed): 125 / Platform (Flat Bed): 29 / Flareside Pickup: 1,595 / Styleside Pickup (1957/60 type Styleside bed only): 3,559.

btw: Take into consideration 40 + years of ppl swapping parts around. The info I typed was what was used "as original" and was taken directly from the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog.

It's possible later wheels that use hubcaps that snap onto the outside of the wheel centers are on your truck now.

The parts catalog I made reference to is available on a CD from hipoparts.com / also sold on ebay / the price is $22.95.

 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

The rear caps (called bottlecaps by some ppl) are identical in appearance to the type used on Standard Cab F100 2WD's, but are deeper to clear the rear axle hub and are larger in diameter.

These caps fit inside the wheel center and are retained by spring clips that are riveted to the wheel. Another term for these are "innies."

The F100 caps are 9 1/2" in diameter, the F250's are 10 1/2" in diameter.

Look in the member photo galleries for pics of these caps....they are either painted argent (silver) or white and use block letters F O R D in the center painted red. There are 12 depressions shaped similar to this: \_/ (turn example around 180 degrees) around the outside.
Here is a picture of the set of hub caps I have for a F-100. These are what where referanced above.

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bigblockford_390
Here is a picture of the set of hub caps I have for a F-100. These are what where referanced above.

Jeff
Thanks for posting the picture.

Dennis Carpenter is now reproducing the stainless version of these caps...for F100's only.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
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No front hubcaps were offered on 1959/66 F250 4WD's. Some F250 4WD's have them on the rear, some do not.

According to the parts catalog illustrations and the factory photos I have, the caps were painted, not stainless like the 2WD Custom Cabs used.

The rear caps (called bottlecaps by some ppl) are identical in appearance to the type used on Standard Cab F100 2WD's, but are deeper to clear the rear axle hub and are larger in diameter.

These caps fit inside the wheel center and are retained by spring clips that are riveted to the wheel. Another term for these are "innies."

The F100 caps are 9 1/2" in diameter, the F250's are 10 1/2" in diameter.

Look in the member photo galleries for pics of these caps....they are either painted argent (silver) or white and use block letters F O R D in the center painted red. There are 12 depressions shaped similar to this: \_/ (turn example around 180 degrees) around the outside.

Official FoMoCo 1966 F250 4WD production figures: Cab & Chassis: 644 / Platform & Rack (Stake Bed): 125 / Platform (Flat Bed): 29 / Flareside Pickup: 1,595 / Styleside Pickup (1957/60 type Styleside bed only): 3,559.

btw: Take into consideration 40 + years of ppl swapping parts around. The info I typed was what was used "as original" and was taken directly from the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog.

It's possible later wheels that use hubcaps that snap onto the outside of the wheel centers are on your truck now.

The parts catalog I made reference to is available on a CD from hipoparts.com / also sold on ebay / the price is $22.95.

Can you tell me the production numbers for the 1966 F100 4WD? TIA!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Payner44
Can you tell me the production numbers for the 1966 F100 4WD? TIA!
1966 F100 4WD production figures:

Cab & Chassis = 145 / Flareside Pickup = 839 / Styleside Pickup = 4,493.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Any idea if the F250 Hubcaps will fit on later model wheels? Any idea where I'd get those if they do? Most sites selling NOS and such cater mostly to the F100

I've got a set of later model (67 - 76?) F250 Stainless Hubcaps and set of the same era that are painted (argent/silver). These don't look right on a 66, only the 'bottle caps' do.

Well, my truck is a Custom Cab..so, I'd need the stainless. Looking for some help on a source...is this the right forum??

th1567 -
Gary reached into my toolbox on the 1975 4x4 highboy and pulled out half a 1/5th of Jim Beam. I didn't put it or even know it was there, Since I was so skinny at the time, he just shook his head and said quietly.."Hood (my nickname), you're gonna burn out, just like Ol' Hank Williams if you don't quit." I started to protest...but just went back to work...up 2 storeys on scaffolding...I wasn't drinking, not then anyways...
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by th1567
Any idea if the F250 Hubcaps will fit on later model wheels? Any idea where I'd get those if they do? Most sites selling NOS and such cater mostly to the F100

I've got a set of later model (67 - 76?) F250 Stainless Hubcaps and set of the same era that are painted (argent/silver). These don't look right on a 66, only the 'bottle caps' do.

Well, my truck is a Custom Cab..so, I'd need the stainless. Looking for some help on a source...is this the right forum??
It's the right forum.

What type of wheels do you have? Do the caps fit inside the wheel center and are held on by spring clips that are riveted to the wheels?

These caps resemble what's pictured above, but are deeper.

Or do you have the type of wheels that the caps snap over tabs on the outside of the wheel center?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Thanks,

Ok, the spare tire/wheel is a split rim and is configured for the "snap inside center with metal tab" type however.....

The wheels on the truck are of the type that accept the "snap over the nubs outside the center type.

Whereas, I'm partial to the stock split rim as I know where to get those worked on...('bout any proper truck stop or truck tire store)....I'd like to go to that configuration...it appears the trucks came with both types of wheels however......

My truck is a camper special, which I believe would have the split rim by default and therefore would be of the "snap inside center with metal tab"

IN the final analysis...I'd like to go the 'correct' type wheel for the CC CSpecl, stainless caps, with the stainless beauty rings (I assume these fit both types of wheel)...but if the split rims are too hard to find...I'll stick with what I got and go with the snap over types...and so long as I have the stainless caps...I guess I could forego the rings...

It would seem to follow that since this truck was a special order...the beauty rings are apropos...

What say you?

By the way Bill, the tailgate on my other 66 is the Sans Serif type of letter...whereas the tailgate on my CC CSpecl is the Serif type..or as you put it..pre 9/66 and post 9/66....you're a virtual danged repository of information on these heartbreakers.

TH1567
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Ford did not offer trim rings (aka beauty rings) for F250/350's till 1972.

If you've seen the type with lines on them or just a thin plain type..on 16" wheeled trucks, like I have at truck shows, these were used on 1948 and earlier Ford cars/trucks, both of which had 16" rims.

When Ford introduced trim rings in 1972, they for the first time offered a full wheel cover for 16" rims...but the cover is 15" and was used on the 1971/72 LTD's originally.

Here what Ford did: First the 16" trim ring (D2TZ-1210-A) was snapped on, then the 15" wheelcover (D2AZ-1130-J) was snapped into it!

No kidding!

Later on in the 1970's Ford offered several different covers using the same method.

Split rims were standard equipment on F250 Camper Specials thru (at least) 1972.

Ppl removed them for the well known reason and replaced them with the 1973 and later 16" rims used on F250/350's and E250/350 (Econolines).

The 16" wheels used on 1969/74 E300's also work.

You may be able to use the 1964 Galaxie stainless hubcaps on those tabbed wheels, depending on the shape of the tabs, and the length of the hub (how far it protrudes).

These were used on 1964/66 F100's with the tabbed wheels, and are 10 1/4" in diameter.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Got it...on the trim rings...seen a few trucks with them and wondered. They won't be going on the truck. Oh they look nice enough if'n you're into it...but if the trucks didn't come with them...

There's a NOS/Fords Only guy nearby in San Jose...and he said as you did...there are two types and he said he'd need to see...he's sort of a cranky and cantakerous fellow over the phone...but pleasant enough in person....if anyone wants his number I'll dig it up and pass it along...he's a bit spendy...but knows his Ford vehicles.

I'll go up there and see if he has a line on the larger "snap over" caps in stainless to fit what wheels are the truck now...I'm saying stainless as that's what they appear to be...or maybe he'll have a line of set of correct wheels and caps for the truck...which are the "snap in" type.

Going to use Occam's Razor on this one...

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by th1567
Got it...on the trim rings...seen a few trucks with them and wondered. They won't be going on the truck. Oh they look nice enough if'n you're into it...but if the trucks didn't come with them...

There's a NOS/Fords Only guy nearby in San Jose...and he said as you did...there are two types and he said he'd need to see...he's sort of a cranky and cantakerous fellow over the phone...but pleasant enough in person....if anyone wants his number I'll dig it up and pass it along...he's a bit spendy...but knows his Ford vehicles.

I'll go up there and see if he has a line on the larger "snap over" caps in stainless to fit what wheels are the truck now...I'm saying stainless as that's what they appear to be...or maybe he'll have a line of set of correct wheels and caps for the truck...which are the "snap in" type.

Going to use Occam's Razor on this one...

Thanks again.

TH1567
When I pulled that 68 F250 in the yard she got in and said, "Let's go." ...it was years later that I found out why her Dad was coming out the door as we peeled out of there...
Did that fellow in San Jose own or used to own a Ford obsolete parts place catering to trucks? If so...we've crossed paths more than once.

I sold obsolete Ford parts for 30 years as a side line, and cleaned out many a dealer in CA...mebbe in the very town you're living in!

If you want cranky and cantankerous, you don't need to talk on the phone.

Just read a few of my posts. Notice what's below my user name above.

It took years of waiting on ppl at parts counters for me to become a grumpy old SOB...and I'm proud of it!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Don't know his history...he's an American of African descent...and his 2K sq. ft warehouse is over near the fairgrounds in San Jose...on Umbarger Road...it's cluttered with mucho partes from every kind of Ford...but when you ask him for a part...he goes in back and shuffles around a bit and pulls out what you need. I bought a 4V intake for my beater 66 F250...from him...and those rubber bushings the I-Beams ride on. I'd reckon you more'n likely were crossing paths with him a time or two....he's been at it a while.

One of the oldest Ford Dealerships is here in Hollister...Tiffany... and I bought my 86 F250/6.9 Litre/4spd from what was Al Cheney and was then North Bay Ford in Santa Cruz.

TH1567
I can still see the moon shining on that 66 F100's hood as we cruised down the Big Sur Hiway....sipping a cool throat charmer, the heater on....and the window down...which my daughter says is always the best.
 
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Thanks to everyone for all the good info, especially Bill... you have many very helpful posts.
 
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