Ok, I have had quite the weekend and gotten myself into a bit of a mess and need the collective wisdom to try to sort through some options.

This history is I bought a 1972 F250 with a 360 which had recently had a valve job. Unfortunatley, the PO did some real knucklehead things like running water in the radiatior and corroded the hell out of it. We flushed it out numerous times, but some corrosion must have got into the water pump and it seized, and the engine overheated without me noticing it right away.

We ended up overhauling the radiator, and replacing the water pump and were check it out when it gave the signals that I might have blown a head gasket. Pulled the heads and sure enough I had and had also managed to get water in the number 5 cylinder and scored it up.

It was 50% days this weekend at our local Ecology junk yard and I spent a super hot day pulling an engine out of a 1972 F250 I found in the yard. It is a 460 block with D3VE-A2A heads.

I thought I had read that the 460 and 360s are interchangable. However, when I got it back though I noticed the intake manifold was different than mine. I think I also just read that my valves from the heads on my 360 are different than on the D3VE heads. That kind of sucks because my plan was to swap out the 360 short block with the 460 short block, take the components out of my head (its warped and needs to be machined) and put them in the D3VE heads and slap them back on the 460 with the 460 intake manifold. Now I think this plan won't work and am wondering what I should do!

 

If you're still going to swap the 460 in, you'll need to go back to the boneyard and grab the trans, driveshaft and engine perches from the donor truck.

 

I have a C6 transmission. Why would I need to do that?

 

Because the FE and 460 are in different engine families with different bellhousings.

 

There is virtually nothing on the 360 that will fit the 460. Totally different engines. As was pointed out already, the bellhousing bolt pattern is different and on a C6, the bellhousing is integral with the tranny so you're talking a whole different tranny. The motor mounts are different, so your talking different engine perches for the motor to sit on in the frame (they were specific to the different engines).

Your 360 belongs to the FE engine family, which includes the 332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427 and 428. Any of these would be a straight bolt-in, though certain of them would be a bit hard to find these days. A 390 is a good swap and they're plentiful. Same block as the 360, longer stroke so a bit more torque. Note that the 428, while only one cube different from the 429, is an entirely different engine as the 429 is in the same engine family as the 460.

 

yup go get the trans ,engine perches/mounts and exaust manifolds pretty much anything that had anything to do with comecting the 460 and the truck together. in my opionon you will be far better off with the the 460 then a the 360 as part are esayer to find and alot more power for pullin trailers or doin burn outs. then haul off the 360 for scap and get some money back

 

The only bad thing about the 460 nowadays is the gas mileage. Talk about a gas guzzler. A 390 built right, or a 360, will pull trailers and do burnouts just fine

 

The first year for the 460 engine in F100/350's was 1973.

If you removed a "460" (it could be a 429) engine from a 1972, it was swapped in.

What motor mount stands and brackets were used on the 1972? From 1973/79 F100/350's or...?

The D3VE heads were used on: 1973/74 429 passenger cars / 1975/79 460 passenger cars / 1973/79 F100/350's / 1975/79 Econolines.

B&S = 429: 4.36 x 3.59 / 460 = 4.36 x 3.65.

Tiger Dan: Ford cheated...when introduced in 1966 (passenger cars only), the 428 "7 Liter" as it was originally called is actually 426.7 cid, not 428 cid.

Ford didn't wanna call it a 426, cuz ChryCo had a 426 engine, and Ford already had a 427 engine, so......

 

Make things easy on yourself, take the 460 back to the yard and see if they will let you swap it for a 390. The 390 goes in right where the 360 came out.

 

The collective wisdom has spoken. My yard does not take exchanges, only value it as scrap.

I think I am going to take my 360 block down to a machine shop and have the cylidner resleaved. Any opinions on that?

Meanwile, I put an add up on craigslist for the whole 460 / D9TE shooting match including the heads, intake manifold, water pump, and harmonic stabilizer all for $200. Let me know if you know of any takers in the San Diego area.

Thanks!

 

That's a midyear 1979 and later 460 block.

Complete block casting number is D9TE-6015-AB

It'll work on anything, as long as the balancer, weighted spacer and flywheel or flexplate matches.

The 1971/midyear 1979 460 engines (#D1VE-6015-AB, AB1, AB2) use a different balancer, flywheel/flexplate, and don't use a weighted spacer.

 

If that 460 is a runner, it should be worth more than 200 bucks.

As for having the 360 sleeved, don't bother. 360/390 blocks are plentiful enough that you could get a decent block for less than the cost of having yours sleeved. Really, you should look into going to a 390, you'd be happier in the long run. You can probably pick up a decnt core 390 for a hundred bucks or so, an FTE member near Fresno gave one away recently.

Here's one in Sacramento for free:

FORD 390 ENGINE BEST OFFER ITS YOURS

And a couple of blocks:

ford pickup parts

These are just examples of what's out there and easily found...I know Sac. is a long ways away for you, but check the classifieds here on FTE and keep watching your local CL, the deals pop up all the time.

 

How bad is your #5 scored up? Is it too far gone to hone it out? What's the bore measurement on your 360? Take your heads and get em decked, re-ring your piston and put it back together.... might be the easiest way to go. Inframe rebuilds can work out just dandy, new rings, bearings and gaskets.

 

Check the FE forums before you decide on rebuilding a "360". Look for anything that says "360", and everything that says "360 to 390".

 

My complete casting number on this engine is D9TE-AB-0D247. What year 460 is that?