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Old 06-23-2008, 12:25 AM
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1960 223 fuel pump

Got the 223 in my '60 f250 to fire up but the fuel pump went out after a couple seconds(truck had been sitting for over 5 years).
I'm looking for the cheapest/easiest way to fix it.

I'm thinking about an electric pump, just wire it to the ignition and splice it in where the mechanical one was.
Will anyone work or do I need a certain flow rating?
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:06 PM
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most should work. just make sure it is a low pressure fuel pump (around 5 psi max for your truck) and not a high pressure one for fuel injecion. you could always use a regulater with high pressure, but then you should really plumb back the relief to the tank. extra work.

ones meant for boats for fuel transfer should work if under 5 psi pressure.

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oooh yeah, one other thing, you should really wire it through a realy instead of direct to ignition. draws a few amps and the wiring to switch might not be up to it. you can get cheap relays at most auto parts stores to handle the amperage. easy to wire in.

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thanks
what's the cheapest one I could get away with?
Just trying to get the stock 223 going while I fix everything else up and eventually drop in a v8.
 
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Actually I'll probably look for one at the junkyard.

What cars should I look for as far as a quick/easy removal?
I think he's got a couple boats in the back too, where are the pumps located on boats?
 
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:52 AM
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There's an amount of plumbing to be done to hook up an electric fuel pump. Check on just how much a replacement mechanical pump would be; sometimes these things are a lot cheaper than you'd expect. Try a couple different parts places... sometimes there's big differences in price because of different suppliers. (At Rockauto, Bosch fuel pumps were about 3 times as expensive as the Airtex or Carter pumps.)

These might fit:
AIRTEX Part # 4208 (no filter bowl, though)
CARTER Part # M3553

Unless there's something weird about 1960 engines... Rockauto didn't show any fuel pump for 1960, yet it had 'em for '61 and '57 that I checked.
 
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most of the ones at junk yards are going to be hi pressure units so they won't work by themselves on a carb'd engine. will flood the carb all the time.
and most of them are built into the tanks, so they are a pain to get to and very hard to adapt to your truck. Volkswagens (Rabitt, Vans, etc) have external mounted ones usually back by the fuel tank, but they are probably hi pressure units and more than likely have metric ports that can be a pain to find adapters for. you'll need a regulater for them and regs are not cheap.

they weren't used on all boats, mostly the bigger cabin cruisers, etc that had built in fuel tanks and inboard engines. they could be mounted anywhere between the fuel tank and engines.

check out your local for sale ads (up here its called Bargain Finder) as you find them in there once and awhile. you can alos look at buying a new carter or holley electric pump, they are not that expensive (probably around $100) for the low pressure low flow models. also maybe stop by your local performance shop and see if they have any used ones kicking around.
i found a carter in the local paper for $30 that i use on my truck and alos found a Holley with seperate filter at a swap meet for $50, so there are bargains out there if you searcha bit.

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are ford mech pumps pretty much universl or does it have to be from a 223
 
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no they are not universal. the arms and mounting pads will be different from engine family to engine family.

look to see if you can get a rebuild kit for your pump. they are not that tough to rebuild and it is probably just a worn diaphragm or weak spring that is the problem with the old one.

check NAPA as they seem to be one of the better places at getting parts for older stuff.

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Here's the one I use on my flatty:

AutoZone/Airtex E8016S ~$20, rated 1.5 - 4 psi
Regulator: Holley 12-804, about $20 at Auto Zone

Haven't had a lick of trouble from either. Whatever you do, don't buy a Spectre round chrome regulator, they are crap.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Here's the one I use on my flatty:

AutoZone/Airtex E8016S ~$20, rated 1.5 - 4 psi
Regulator: Holley 12-804, about $20 at Auto Zone

Haven't had a lick of trouble from either. Whatever you do, don't buy a Spectre round chrome regulator, they are crap.
Can you give me a link? When I put the number in for the fuel pump, auto zone comes up with $51 and Schuck's comes back with about $80.

Also why do I need a pressure regulator if it doesn't go above 5 PSI?
 
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Wow, they only show an E8011, and $50. Mine looks the same, but as I recall the 8011 was a 7 psi pump. Rock Auto is a few bucks cheaper and has the 8016. Looks like I bought at a good time! It's actually listed as a replacement for early Subaru's!
 
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