VIN Decode, Please
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VIN Decode, Please
Hi guys. Awesome forum! Looks like I'll be at least lurking around here, although I very well may become a regular poster like i am in the BMW world.
Anyway, could you help me find out some things about my new truck? I just picked it up the other day, knowing it needed a carburetor (and about 15 bucks worth of gas just to get the electric fuel pump wet).
I don't recognize the engine, but I tend to think it's a 332 Lincoln y-block? Looks like factory dual exhaust with ram horns that have the bolt holes NOT all lined up. Mated to what appears to be a Clark 5-speed with a casting number 219016. Not sure if it's an overdrive or not. 1st (granny) gear is over to the right and to the rear, across from reverse. 2nd gear is where most cars have first gear.
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24R
351
Here's a shot of the door jamb-mounted vin plate.
In case you can't see the VIN clearly, it's F10JR430085
Thanks in advance and keep up all the great work guys.
Brian in Yakima WA
Anyway, could you help me find out some things about my new truck? I just picked it up the other day, knowing it needed a carburetor (and about 15 bucks worth of gas just to get the electric fuel pump wet).
I don't recognize the engine, but I tend to think it's a 332 Lincoln y-block? Looks like factory dual exhaust with ram horns that have the bolt holes NOT all lined up. Mated to what appears to be a Clark 5-speed with a casting number 219016. Not sure if it's an overdrive or not. 1st (granny) gear is over to the right and to the rear, across from reverse. 2nd gear is where most cars have first gear.
As shown:
24R
351
Here's a shot of the door jamb-mounted vin plate.
In case you can't see the VIN clearly, it's F10JR430085
Thanks in advance and keep up all the great work guys.
Brian in Yakima WA
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F10JR430085 / 114 / / F100 / 81A / A / 12 / 4800 / 114 / 3600 / 830417
F10 = F100 2WD
J = 223 1V
R = San Jose Assembly Plant
430085 = 1963 ~ Assembled in July
114" Wheelbase
No Paint Code-Special Order Vehicle
F100 = F100 2WD / 4800 lbs. GVWR
81A = Standard Cab
A = Ford 3 Speed Manual all Syncromesh Transmission
12 = Ford 9" / 3.89-1 / non Limited Slip
4800 = 4800 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
114 HP @ 3600 RPM
830417: 83 = Purchased by & for the US Government / 0417 = Special Order Number.
Engine/transmission swap. All the Y blocks have the distributor behind the carb.
There are two types of Ram's Horn manifolds, they do not interchange.
One type was used on 272/292 Y blocks, as installed in F100 and larger trucks.
The other type was used on 302/332 Y blocks which are based on the Lincoln Y block (no Lincoln used a 332 engine) and used on F500 and larger trucks only.
No Ford F100/350 ever had a factory installed dual exhaust system.
F10JR430085 / 114 / / F100 / 81A / A / 12 / 4800 / 114 / 3600 / 830417
F10 = F100 2WD
J = 223 1V
R = San Jose Assembly Plant
430085 = 1963 ~ Assembled in July
114" Wheelbase
No Paint Code-Special Order Vehicle
F100 = F100 2WD / 4800 lbs. GVWR
81A = Standard Cab
A = Ford 3 Speed Manual all Syncromesh Transmission
12 = Ford 9" / 3.89-1 / non Limited Slip
4800 = 4800 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
114 HP @ 3600 RPM
830417: 83 = Purchased by & for the US Government / 0417 = Special Order Number.
Engine/transmission swap. All the Y blocks have the distributor behind the carb.
There are two types of Ram's Horn manifolds, they do not interchange.
One type was used on 272/292 Y blocks, as installed in F100 and larger trucks.
The other type was used on 302/332 Y blocks which are based on the Lincoln Y block (no Lincoln used a 332 engine) and used on F500 and larger trucks only.
No Ford F100/350 ever had a factory installed dual exhaust system.
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Wow, thanks for that ultra-quick response.
Seems that the drivetrain was swapped out at some point.
Was apparently bought originally by the University Place School District (Seattle). It's definitely what I would call a big block y-block.
Maybe they got bored over summer break one year and swapped out the engine from a school bus.
They did a pretty clean job of making it work. I thought it was stock, except for the aftermarket shift boot.
Any thoughts?
Brian
Seems that the drivetrain was swapped out at some point.
Was apparently bought originally by the University Place School District (Seattle). It's definitely what I would call a big block y-block.
Maybe they got bored over summer break one year and swapped out the engine from a school bus.
They did a pretty clean job of making it work. I thought it was stock, except for the aftermarket shift boot.
Any thoughts?
Brian
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It's EZ to decode these VIN's when one has decoded over 500 here on FTE and has most of the info memorized. 
I can't find that case number you posted. Is the transmission tag still there?
On a Clark, it's on the passenger side front of the trans under one of the 6 bolts that holds the inspection plate on. This is the same location a P.T.O. would be fitted.
Your prolly right about the school bus ref. The B Series school busses came with either a 302 or 332 engine thru 1963, which was the last yr these engines were used on anything.
My guess, some school bus driver prolly had this truck, and bought a wrecked school bus and swapped everything over.
What rear end does it have?
F100's from 1953 thru 1979 have 5 lug wheels with a 5.50" bolt circle pattern.
Thought I'd better add the following, cuz someone here may ask why 1979. 1980/83: Some F100's have this same 5.50" bolt pattern, most have a 4.50" bolt pattern.
Wow, thanks for that ultra-quick response.
Seems that the drivetrain was swapped out at some point.
Was apparently bought originally by the University Place School District (Seattle). It's definitely what I would call a big block y-block.
Maybe they got bored over summer break one year and swapped out the engine from a school bus.
They did a pretty clean job of making it work. I thought it was stock, except for the aftermarket shift boot.
Any thoughts?Brian
Seems that the drivetrain was swapped out at some point.
Was apparently bought originally by the University Place School District (Seattle). It's definitely what I would call a big block y-block.
Maybe they got bored over summer break one year and swapped out the engine from a school bus.
They did a pretty clean job of making it work. I thought it was stock, except for the aftermarket shift boot.
Any thoughts?Brian
I can't find that case number you posted. Is the transmission tag still there?
On a Clark, it's on the passenger side front of the trans under one of the 6 bolts that holds the inspection plate on. This is the same location a P.T.O. would be fitted.
Your prolly right about the school bus ref. The B Series school busses came with either a 302 or 332 engine thru 1963, which was the last yr these engines were used on anything.
My guess, some school bus driver prolly had this truck, and bought a wrecked school bus and swapped everything over.
What rear end does it have?
F100's from 1953 thru 1979 have 5 lug wheels with a 5.50" bolt circle pattern.
Thought I'd better add the following, cuz someone here may ask why 1979. 1980/83: Some F100's have this same 5.50" bolt pattern, most have a 4.50" bolt pattern.
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Welcome to FTE Brian....I too am in Wa...other side of the mtns though...If you get a chance, post some pics of what you have ...Im sure someone here will be able to tell which engine you have :-)
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Anyone able to correctly identify this engine? I'm thinking it's a steel-crank 332 Lincoln?
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These are the early style valve covers used on Lincoln's with 317's (1952/54) and 341's V8's (1955/56).
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WOW!! That is OLD! Any way to easily differentiate the 317 from the 341?
Guess I should have mentioned that it has an Autolite non-vacuum distributor, if that helps at all.
I have a nice reworked Holley 4160 780cfm that I was planning to put on there, but that might be a bit too much carb for this small cubic inch "big block". You think?
Guess I should have mentioned that it has an Autolite non-vacuum distributor, if that helps at all.
I have a nice reworked Holley 4160 780cfm that I was planning to put on there, but that might be a bit too much carb for this small cubic inch "big block". You think?
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BTW, I was basing my earlier guess on the info gleaned from this page: Google Image Result for http://www.ford-y-block.com/57tpc368.jpg
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Finally got around to rebuilding a smaller 4160 carb I had laying around. It's a 465cfm unit and probably smaller than this engnie likes, but it'll work for now. I got it running yesterday. It smoked pretty bad for the first five minutes, but after that it stopped smoking, much to my relief. played with the distributor a little and it runs pretty damn good.
So does anyone have any info on telling the 317 engine from the 341? Head casting number or intake or exhaust characteristics?
Anything?
Ont thing I was thinking about doing is upgrading to disc brakes. Any straightforward way to do this?
Happy 4th weekend everyone.
Brian in Yakima WA
So does anyone have any info on telling the 317 engine from the 341? Head casting number or intake or exhaust characteristics?
Anything?
Ont thing I was thinking about doing is upgrading to disc brakes. Any straightforward way to do this?
Happy 4th weekend everyone.
Brian in Yakima WA
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