Here Comes Employee Pricing
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Here Comes Employee Pricing
Not that it's going to make a difference in sales numbers (gas is $4+) but here comes the much expected employee pricing campaign. AGAIN.
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
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Not that it's going to make a difference in sales numbers (gas is $4+) but here comes the much expected employee pricing campaign. AGAIN.
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
By next summer with $5-$6.00 a gallon gas Ford and all the other auto makers will have to offer 0% financing, employee pricing on top of huge dealer and factory incentives in order to just sell their trucks.
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It might hurt the new sales a bit but they need to clear out the inventory.
By next summer with $5-$6.00 a gallon gas Ford and all the other auto makers will have to offer 0% financing, employee pricing on top of huge dealer and factory incentives in order to just sell their trucks.
By next summer with $5-$6.00 a gallon gas Ford and all the other auto makers will have to offer 0% financing, employee pricing on top of huge dealer and factory incentives in order to just sell their trucks.
If gas keeps going up, just keeps the price of everything else on the way up so everything will be way out of control!!!
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Do they actually have any employees left that haven't been "bought out" and making a decent wage?
How is a guy expected to work for $18/hour (40 hrs/week= $720/week) and pay for a $30k loan, put food on the table, pay the rent AND have a money left over for $4.00/gal gas for a pickup?
After FICA, Social Security taxes, Federal, State and Local taxes, throw in some union dues, there's maybe $500 bucks left per week, if you're lucky.
Ford just announced the fuel efficient next gen Fiesta will be built in Mexico, even though a US plant bid on it.
U.S. car manufacturers are going the way of the Dodo, and they have nobody but their fat cat managers to blame for it.
How is a guy expected to work for $18/hour (40 hrs/week= $720/week) and pay for a $30k loan, put food on the table, pay the rent AND have a money left over for $4.00/gal gas for a pickup?
After FICA, Social Security taxes, Federal, State and Local taxes, throw in some union dues, there's maybe $500 bucks left per week, if you're lucky.
Ford just announced the fuel efficient next gen Fiesta will be built in Mexico, even though a US plant bid on it.
U.S. car manufacturers are going the way of the Dodo, and they have nobody but their fat cat managers to blame for it.
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How many other jobs pay $18 per hour with no college or vocational training?
Awfully good money to me for getting a job with a high school education.
Awfully good money to me for getting a job with a high school education.
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I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
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I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
THAT is a very good way of seeing it, right there.
But I must also add that there are very few households that operate with one person working and one stay-at-home parent. Both work...its really the only way to get ahead nowadays, let alone tread water.
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Ford and GM as well as Chrysler have all but doomed American production aspects of their business. Turning down an American plant to build the Fiesta, and awarding it to Mexico is pure proof of this arrogance. But yet, The "Little 3" all want we Americans to BUY these autos. Even though they are NOT made in America. All the while management awards themselves big bucks and the line workers are being bought out and their replacement are being paid peanuts. America is becoming a self fulfilling hypocritical disgrace.
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Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
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Our plastic injection molding plant was big into automotive parts (mainly safety restraint parts) for many years. Well thanks to the fuel prices and lack of sales, our plant is shutting down and I will be unemployed July 28.
It's time for the government to step up and do something or we need to overrun the government and start over with a government that serves the people, not big corporations that move all of our jobs overseas!!!!
It's time for the government to step up and do something or we need to overrun the government and start over with a government that serves the people, not big corporations that move all of our jobs overseas!!!!
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Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
In todays economy, I don't consider $20.00 per hour to be a liveable wage when trying to live the American dream.
The next time you see your local president, thank him for his efforts.
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Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will ****** up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
That said, I completely agree with the comments about irresponsibility of The industry, management and unions in not building the right quality and types of vehicles for the times. I thought they might have learned from the '70's.
Will the Vega and Pinto be coming back next ?
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a lot of jobs where risk of injury is present.
I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
My point is that $18 per hour is pretty good for a job that just requires a HS education and that $30 per hour for an assembly line worker is what has led to many of the Big 3's problems.