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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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What about old Fords?

My dad has a '79 Ford tractor that was his dad's. 2 cylinder n/a diesel. My dad told me it has glow plugs (it must have something, he can start it in the winter), no block heater or anything though.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
I was never around the MD Farmalls but have run dozers with the same engine
I am probly one of the few around that has run equipment with cat and Cummins engines that started with pony engines and diesels that started on gas and drove trucks with air starters
belive it or not my uncle still has a cat grader with a pony motor and 2 d8's and a d6,with a CABLE blade.oh yeah,we still use a 2u scatcat to butt scrapers.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FARM69
Most of your heavy duty applications will not have any starting aids besides the use of ether (in moderation).
Amazing what a hit of snort will do for a cold diesel.

Nothing quite like hearing one of the Steigers on the farm with the V12 Detroit fire up cold
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by stevilknevil
belive it or not my uncle still has a cat grader with a pony motor and 2 d8's and a d6,with a CABLE blade.oh yeah,we still use a 2u scatcat to butt scrapers.
not familiar with 2u scatat unless it is a 2U D-8 used for a pusher
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
not familiar with 2u scatat unless it is a 2U D-8 used for a pusher
they were a dealer built thing with a 337 scraper motor and the trans modified so you had 5 reverse gears and a clutch/tourque converter.ours we changed the trans around and took off the push cup off and put a blade and c-frame back on so we could grade up the cut between scrapers.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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ok,must have been similar to the 9U WD-6 that a florida dealer built many years ago to use in cane fields,looked to have had a modified grader chain case hooked to the final drives
 
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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yeah,these were mostly built in the mid-west for BIG road jobs and such.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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answer to your question

Originally Posted by tjc transport
nothing like an old cat D-9 with a hand crank pony motor, johnson bar clutch, and cable blade to differentiate the men from the mice.

ok ya young pups. go ahead and look pony motor, johnson bar and cable blade up in your wikpedia, and see what ya come up with!!
pony motor:small gasoline motor used to warmup and start big diesel engines
cable blade:front blade lifted up by a winch system
Johnson bar clutch:?????????????????????????????

I didn't need wikipedia.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by deereman4020
pony motor:small gasoline motor used to warmup and start big diesel engines
not quite. a pony motor is a small gas engine used in place of an electric starter.
Originally Posted by deereman4020
cable blade:front blade lifted up by a winch system
correct.

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Johnson bar clutch
caterpillars name for a hand operated clutch.
it is a "bar" sticking up out of the floor, kinda like the clutch lever on an older wood chipper
 
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
ok ya young pups. go ahead and look pony motor, johnson bar and cable blade up in your wikpedia, and see what ya come up with!!
Everythings pretty well explained except the Johnson Bar( also known as slide bar),that was the forward/reverse lever for the transmission

The name Johnson came from the Cat engineer that developed the particular invention
Another of his inventions for Cat was the Johnson selfloading scraper,in the early days was called a johnson as in 621 johnson which was a 21 yard selfloader in the later years just the J was used ie 613J 618J 623j etc
 
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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I have a Bolens Garden tractor woth a Mitsubshi 3 cylinder diesel (15 HP) with glow plugs
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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I now have a job farming for a neighbor. My dad's '58 730D had a block heater, no other starting aids. My neighbor's 4020D has none that i know of. His 4440 & 4640 both have ether starting aids. Poof of black smoke and they start right up.....it was 39 degrees.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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JohnDeere 30, 40, 50, 55, and 60 series tractor were set up thru the attenuator to provide full throttle fuel (even with throttle lever at idle) on start up. That is why you get the rapid acceleration and heavy black smoke on start up.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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At home we've got a Farmall 560 and 706 that both use glow plugs. The difference between theirs and a pickups was that where the pickup had a light that goes out when its okay to start, the tractors have a button you hold in for 10-15 seconds with a glow plug gauge next to it.
 
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