Its tire time!
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Its tire time!
Can some of you help me make a decision.
A) Keep the 295's BFG AT (raised solid lettering)
B) Go to stock 265's BFG AT (gain mpg?)
C) Go to Coopers 285's and save $275.00 (raised outline lettering)
Any opinions would be very helpful.
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A) Keep the 295's BFG AT (raised solid lettering)
B) Go to stock 265's BFG AT (gain mpg?)
C) Go to Coopers 285's and save $275.00 (raised outline lettering)
Any opinions would be very helpful.
Thanks
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i would go with the 265 or 285, cause they are cheaper tire (and put that savings to fuel). i wouldnt expect to much savings or losses in the fuel department downsizing or upsizing in tire as long as you are at stock height.
plus with the two sizes mentioned above you have a bunch of choices to pick from in tire vs the 295's
plus with the two sizes mentioned above you have a bunch of choices to pick from in tire vs the 295's
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Actually I'd add one to the list: BFG Commercial T/A or, Commercial Hwy A/S
Reasons: 1. Commercial tires start w/ a greater tread depth due to the stricter DOT rules for tread depth on commercial vehicles. This equates to an extra 5-7K or so in extra tire life over avg usage. 2. Price is better than the consumer rated T/A.
Downsides: Warranty - commercial tires only come w/ a basic road hazard warranty. No treadlife warranty is offered.
I went this route w/ my 00 and have been very happy. Paid about $25 less/tire & so far I'm getting excellent tread life - virtually zero wear after about 7.5K miles. Keep in mind that the compound on these is a little harder than the consumer version so the ride is a bit rougher and they are a little noisier as well.
If you must stay w/ your original list I'd vote for the stock BFG 265's - diesel isn't gett'n any cheaper. Only problem is I only got about 35K out of a replacement set of these w/ mixed driving on the same 00 F250. (on/off Road + towing)
DG
Reasons: 1. Commercial tires start w/ a greater tread depth due to the stricter DOT rules for tread depth on commercial vehicles. This equates to an extra 5-7K or so in extra tire life over avg usage. 2. Price is better than the consumer rated T/A.
Downsides: Warranty - commercial tires only come w/ a basic road hazard warranty. No treadlife warranty is offered.
I went this route w/ my 00 and have been very happy. Paid about $25 less/tire & so far I'm getting excellent tread life - virtually zero wear after about 7.5K miles. Keep in mind that the compound on these is a little harder than the consumer version so the ride is a bit rougher and they are a little noisier as well.
If you must stay w/ your original list I'd vote for the stock BFG 265's - diesel isn't gett'n any cheaper. Only problem is I only got about 35K out of a replacement set of these w/ mixed driving on the same 00 F250. (on/off Road + towing)
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I'm running Nokian Vatiiva A/T's and so far I'm really liking them, I've got about 20k km's on them and still have more then half the tread left, my tires usually only last me about 35-40k km's so these ones seem like they will last me longer which is nice.
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I really like the cooper tires. I've got the ATR's on both of my trucks. They aren't mud tires, but they are good in the snow and they seem to wear pretty good. The 285's are a little bigger than stock, but I don't think they are E-rated. The 285's are rated to within 200 to 300 pounds when compared to the 265 E-rated tire. BFG's are good too. If it were me, I'd let price determine the tire given your choices. Both will do well, in my opinion.
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what are you using them for? I got the BFG AT T/A KO's on my truck and they've been awesome.
Other than that, they're expensive and it's costing me a lot to turn those heavy tires. Oh well, you gotta pay for a great tire and these are much better than what came on the truck. They'll be my next set too.
-rockstate
Other than that, they're expensive and it's costing me a lot to turn those heavy tires. Oh well, you gotta pay for a great tire and these are much better than what came on the truck. They'll be my next set too.
-rockstate
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Wouldnt the taller tire reduce the gear ratio and help with MPG? Is the larger tire so much heavier that it over rides the ratio gain?
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I would think that the actual weight difference between two different tire sizes would have a negligible effect. The dominant factor in any mpg change would have to be due to the ratio change.
Think about it, maybe 10 pounds more per tire on a truck that already weighs 6,000 lbs+? I can't imagine that the weight of the tires would have ANY effect.
Think about it, maybe 10 pounds more per tire on a truck that already weighs 6,000 lbs+? I can't imagine that the weight of the tires would have ANY effect.
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I'd go with 285 BF ATs. There isn't much difference between the 285 and the 295 except you MAY be able to get the 285s cheaper. I highly doubt you'll notice any mpg difference with the 33" tires. Remember they may be 1" in dia. larger than stock but only .5" radially. The radius from the axle center to the bottom of the tire is only an increase of .5". With the torque of the 6.0l, no mpg worries on such a small change.
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I really like the cooper tires. I've got the ATR's on both of my trucks. They aren't mud tires, but they are good in the snow and they seem to wear pretty good. The 285's are a little bigger than stock, but I don't think they are E-rated. The 285's are rated to within 200 to 300 pounds when compared to the 265 E-rated tire. BFG's are good too. If it were me, I'd let price determine the tire given your choices. Both will do well, in my opinion.
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Wow, thanks to all that replied. I'm leaning toward returning to the stock size (265) Coopers. $300.00 will buy 900 miles of fuel. And I'm very curious to see if the mpg's change and if it makes the cruise a little more responsive. Although not having the BFG lettering on this particular truck is killing me when I think about it.
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Wow, thanks to all that replied. I'm leaning toward returning to the stock size (265) Coopers. Saving $300.00 will buy 900 miles of fuel. And I'm very curious to see if the mpg's change and if it makes the cruise a little more responsive. Although not having the BFG lettering on this particular truck is killing me when I think about it.
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Remember to take into account the tire size change when you calculate your change in mpg. With the stock tire size, my speedo and odometer read about 3% high. When I switched to the 285-75 Michelins, they both read dead-on accurate to GPS and the roadside radar signs.
Taking this change into account, I lost 0.5 mpg when I upsized the tires. Still, I just got 18.6 mpg on a 350 mile road trip, with the cruise set to 65.
Remember too that a 285/75-16 has an almost 4% longer circumfrence than a 265/75-16. On a 50,000 mile tire, that's a couple thousand miles longer life. A minor consideration.
Sorry, I am biased; I just think 285's look SO much better than 265's on these trucks. Between the looks and the fact that the speedo is more accurate, I sometimes wonder if these trucks weren't designed around 285's.
Taking this change into account, I lost 0.5 mpg when I upsized the tires. Still, I just got 18.6 mpg on a 350 mile road trip, with the cruise set to 65.
Remember too that a 285/75-16 has an almost 4% longer circumfrence than a 265/75-16. On a 50,000 mile tire, that's a couple thousand miles longer life. A minor consideration.
Sorry, I am biased; I just think 285's look SO much better than 265's on these trucks. Between the looks and the fact that the speedo is more accurate, I sometimes wonder if these trucks weren't designed around 285's.
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