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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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removing headers...broken bolts....help!!!

is there any trick way of getting manifold bolts out? and is there any easy way of getting busted bolts out of the head?
 
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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heat, pb blaster, more heat, and some big vice grips. OPtherwise, easy-outs might be your only option.
 
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Old May 20, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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heat as in torch?
 
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Old May 20, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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No there's no trick or easy way, in fact you may have to remove the head(s) to get the bolts out.
 
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Old May 20, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Drag it to a machine shop before you start using easy-outs. They break off frequently with exhaust bolts. Better to pay someone $10 to drill and tap, then ten times that to drill through a broken off easy-out.

It you end up pulling the heads, just drill and tap them yourself.
 
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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get a nut that fits over the bolt that is sticking out and weld the sumb bitch together so you can back it out with a wrench. but remember to you LUBE AND HEAT
just my 2 cents.
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Lube them for a week straight,if you can. If they first do not loosen up, try a little propane torch heat. Be careful of all other engine parts, valve cover gaskets ect...

Lube again,try to gradually loosen them, do not yank on them. Air impact on low setting to try to vibrate loose. All this done on a cold block.

If thay are already broke,get the tire outa the way, fold back metal inner fender liner. Start out with a sharp tip punch right in middle of bolt. Then use VERY sharp small drill bit to get a pilot hole started.

Keep using a bigger bits, till you are at the point where you can tap new threads. I welded my tap in to a 3/8-3/8 dv socket so I can use a long extention and make sure you start it straight.

If you can not get the size you need step up one size and use "Helicoils" or "perma-coils" thay are a threaded insert you put in the hole. I have used them many times with no problems.

Make sure you upgrade to grade 8 bolts,use anti-seaze compound and use a torque wrench, 24 ft lbs by my books. Drive a few miles and retorque and then drive again and retorque again. It will save your gaskets in the long run.

Do not try the ol "easy out", I broke one off in the hole and had a heck of a time getting it out. Do not use too small of a bit for your first hole, I broke one off in the middle of the bolt. Had to drill 3 holes around it to get it out....

Enjoy......
 

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Old May 23, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Lube them for a week straight,if you can. If they first do not loosen up, try a little propane torch heat. Be careful of all other engine parts, valve cover gaskets ect...

Lube again,try to gradually loosen them, do not yank on them. Air impact on low setting to try to vibrate loose. All this done on a cold block.

If thay are already broke,get the tire outa the way, fold back metal inner fender liner. Start out with a sharp tip punch right in middle of bolt. Then use VERY sharp small drill bit to get a pilot hole started.

Keep using a bigger bits, till you are at the point where you can tap new threads. I welded my tap in to a 3/8-3/8 dv socket so I can use a long extention and make sure you start it straight.

If you can not get the size you need step up one size and use "Helicoils" or "perma-coils" thay are a threaded insert you put in the hole. I have used them many times with no problems.

Make sure you upgrade to grade 8 bolts,use anti-seaze compound and use a torque wrench, 24 ft lbs by my books. Drive a few miles and retorque and then drive again and retorque again. It will save your gaskets in the long run.

Do not try the ol "easy out", I broke one off in the hole and had a heck of a time getting it out. Do not use too small of a bit for your first hole, I broke one off in the middle of the bolt. Had to drill 3 holes around it to get it out....

Enjoy......
thanks ill try taking the tire off, and i think ill put ss bolts in there er sumthin
 
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A couple of tricks that have worked for me:
1. Use heat and coll quickly. Heat the bolt with propane till it glows, cool with a wet rag. Repeat for at least 3 cycles. Then try to remove it.

2. If you have to resort to drilling, try using reverse roatation drill bits, starting with a small bit first. Sometimes this will reotate the broken bolt. Forget the easy outs. I've never had one work, and they also cause more trouble than they are worth.
 
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