New eBay survey
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From: Marietta, Ohio
Sorry about that... I sort of figured it out after the fact so I guess it was my mistake. But you are right, they do get worse with every so-called "Improvement"
Later Man...
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From: NM
Chuck,
It takes just basic HTML coding to make an email look official. All it takes is to steal a few graphics off of an actual web site and insert them into a message. When I first got on the net I almost got taken but I had a funny feeling about the email and asked around and found out it was a scam.
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From: Michigan
I know I have gotten into the habit of anytime I get "offical" messages from either ebay or paypal, I simply forward them to either "spoof@ebay.com" or "spoof@paypal.com" accordingly. It takes a few seconds more than just deleting them, but the websites can track these phishing emails to an extent and helps them to fix the problems. I have yet to have any of these emails come back as legit. If I have any concerns about either my paypal or ebay account, I make sure to log into the site directly and not through any "pop up" window
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From: SE Wisc. (the Rust Belt)
Just a little off topic than what I started this thread but in the same direction it has gone. I once got a phone call from a person what as soon as I answered he gave me his name and identified himself as an employee of my bank and he asked for my bank account number to verify something. I told him he was nuts if he thought I would give him my number. I hung up and called the bank and asked for this individual. To my surprise I was connected to his extension. He was actually the guy who called and was legit. I asked if he really thought I'd give my information to a person who just called my office, he said "well we neated to confirm some information". I then worked with him on the situation he called about.
You'd think the bank would be super sensitive to identity theft and would train their people better. If nothing else he should have told me to call the bank so I could verify who I was talking to. This was only a couple of years ago.
You'd think the bank would be super sensitive to identity theft and would train their people better. If nothing else he should have told me to call the bank so I could verify who I was talking to. This was only a couple of years ago.
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From: Utah
I just sold some a few things on ebay and went to leave the buyer feedback and as soon as I clicked the button to get to the feedback this little box popped up
"Important changes to Feedback
Buyers, you can no longer receive negative or neutral Feedback from sellers.
You should leave honest and accurate Feedback without the fear of receiving negative or neutral ratings.
Don't show me this again "
I don't get this message, I am the Seller and what if the buyer never paid, never contacted me etc. makes just as much sense if I purchased something and they send me something other than what was represented in the sale, and I couldn't leave a negative feedback? why even have the rating/score if you cant use it? by the way I was leaving a positive feedback, so im not sure why it was even neccesary?
hmmm?
"Important changes to Feedback
Buyers, you can no longer receive negative or neutral Feedback from sellers.
You should leave honest and accurate Feedback without the fear of receiving negative or neutral ratings.
Don't show me this again "
I don't get this message, I am the Seller and what if the buyer never paid, never contacted me etc. makes just as much sense if I purchased something and they send me something other than what was represented in the sale, and I couldn't leave a negative feedback? why even have the rating/score if you cant use it? by the way I was leaving a positive feedback, so im not sure why it was even neccesary?
hmmm?
If you use it, SUPPORT IT
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From: Indiana
Well, a LOT of sellers, don't leave feedback until you leave it for them. It's supposed to work that they leave feedback as soon as you pay. then you leave feedback, when you receive the item. Problem is, too many sellers (mostly ebay stores - those people that sell something they don't stock, nor have any idea WHEN you'll get it), if you left neutral or negative feedback, sent negative back. Had one say I was "slow to pay, bad communications" when I paid by PayPal within MINUTES of the close of the auction. He had "actual shipping" in the auction, then charged me $35 to ship a radio. Also, charged for insurance, like $5, then didn't have insurance. Of course, I gave negative. So, the new rules are supposed to address the retribution aspect. Seems like it will hurt some sellers, but you can't make EVERYbody happy...
And on the side, my opinion is that neutral is NOT negative...it's NEUTRAL!! As in, not good service, but not bad...sort of NEUTRAL!?!
Because of all that, I don't often do feedback, unless I'm VERY satisfied...
r
And on the side, my opinion is that neutral is NOT negative...it's NEUTRAL!! As in, not good service, but not bad...sort of NEUTRAL!?!
Because of all that, I don't often do feedback, unless I'm VERY satisfied...
r
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From: Marietta, Ohio
My Feedback Policy
It has been a while since I have sold anything on ebay. When I was selling I had a standard ebay feedback policy I posted in every sale. Basically it stated that as a seller I would give feedback immediately upon verifying payment. It also stated as a buyer I would not give feedback until I recieved feedback from the seller and I have received my goods and ascertained if the item or items were as described. I had this policy on an unlinked page on my domain that I included a link for on every sale. I can't recall the URL for that page at the moment so I will have to go look it up if anyone is interested. If I do not get feedback from a seller I will not give it to them unless they have tried to screw me somehow. I have noticed that some sellers either don't want to give feedback first because they are worried that they won't get the last word in or they just don't want to take the time.
So far as I can see, with the new policies they are instituting, there is no reason to bother with the feedback.
I think I'll change my username to D----1
So far as I can see, with the new policies they are instituting, there is no reason to bother with the feedback.
I think I'll change my username to D----1
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From: SE Wisc. (the Rust Belt)
Well, eBay is going through with some of the items they mentioned on the survey they send me a while back. As of October they won't allow you to pay with checks or money orders. This won't affect buyer as much as it will the small time sellers like me who don't want to go through the expense and hassle of sending up a PayPal or credit card account to accept payment. If they go through with this policy I will no longer sell on eBay. It another way they are "protecting" us. I don't need their protection. I see it as another way for them to get more money out of us. I feel if they keep "improving" their site to "protect" us they are going to improve themselves out of business, which in the scheme of things, might not be a bad thing. I'm sure site like Craigslist, and other that will come along, will fill the void. Heck, I might have to resort to posting more items here and other web sites. I might even start going to more swapmeets, that wouldn't be bad at all.
BTW, on the HAMB today some one posted this site, Craig's Helper - Search Craigslist Quickly and Easily. You can use this site to search Craigslist in multiple locations across the country. It works kind of like the search on eBay.
BTW, on the HAMB today some one posted this site, Craig's Helper - Search Craigslist Quickly and Easily. You can use this site to search Craigslist in multiple locations across the country. It works kind of like the search on eBay.
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From: Marietta, Ohio
As a seller I have pretty much written ebay off as a play ground for junk pedlers. I have done a lot better on Craig's list. I have my own ways of protecting myself as a buyer and a seller. I doubt they will fade away but I'm pretty aure they will be less attractive to people like us. I do go there occasionally for odball stuff that I know I'm not going to find otherwise. It used to ge a good thing before it became infested with ripp-off artists and bean counters trying to squeeze every last cent out of it.
Later Man...
Later Man...
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From: Dayton, OH
I use to sell on ebay and have went to craigs list or focused on the message boards for what I have.
If its something I need to try and get a higher price for I put it on ebay.
I was in the gun business, buying and selling parts and making a living off of it. Ebay shut it down. I made good money off of it.
Now with all the fees for ebay then the fees for paypal it adds up.
If its something I need to try and get a higher price for I put it on ebay.
I was in the gun business, buying and selling parts and making a living off of it. Ebay shut it down. I made good money off of it.
Now with all the fees for ebay then the fees for paypal it adds up.
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From: SE Wisc. (the Rust Belt)
One thing I don't understand is people who use internet auction companies to list their items. I've seem many items in the $10-100 range listed by these companies. First the listing company charges a listing fee, and I am sure some kind of final value fee, then eBay gets their piece and then finally PayPal. By the time the $100 item is sold the seller walks away with only with less than $80, or less. It's a lot worse for the lower price items.
eBay and Craigslist have been in legal battles for some time. Something about eBay buying into Craigslist then eBay starting Kijiji, which is in direct competition. At least this is what I have read on a few web sites.
eBay and Craigslist have been in legal battles for some time. Something about eBay buying into Craigslist then eBay starting Kijiji, which is in direct competition. At least this is what I have read on a few web sites.
I'll have the Roast Duck
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From: Northshore, MN
I've said it before, but Craigslist is great. At the very least, it allows the buyer and seller to get together and haggle a price, where both walk away satisfied. The swapmeet section here, and the buy/sell listing on the other site I frequent allow enough parts to exchange, that I don't need Ebay. But that's just me.
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From: australia
Ebay here in Australia was trying to make all payments for auctions PAYPAL PAYMENT ONLY, but after an outcry from it's customers AND legal action from our consumer afairs department this was stopped.
Now ebay say you must list paypal as a payment option but it doesn't have to be used.
So if your not happy with ebays policies , fight them !!!
Now ebay say you must list paypal as a payment option but it doesn't have to be used.
So if your not happy with ebays policies , fight them !!!