Yard hydrant/pump keeps running plumbing question
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Yard hydrant/pump keeps running plumbing question
So I installed a yard hydrant, got everything placed in properly with no leaks and whatnot. Tested it all and it works great.
Heres the problem. After a person showers, the pressure system will kick in the pump every few minutes. It was getting annoying so we turned off the pump last night, then turned it back on this morning to use water. No one has showered yet, but we have ran taps, and flushed the toilet. The pressure system has not been kicking in and out like it was.
Im betting that after we run the shower, the pressure system will start kicking in and out again.
Anyone have a clue why it would do this?
Last night we ran the water out of every tap to get the air out of the line too.
Heres the problem. After a person showers, the pressure system will kick in the pump every few minutes. It was getting annoying so we turned off the pump last night, then turned it back on this morning to use water. No one has showered yet, but we have ran taps, and flushed the toilet. The pressure system has not been kicking in and out like it was.
Im betting that after we run the shower, the pressure system will start kicking in and out again.
Anyone have a clue why it would do this?
Last night we ran the water out of every tap to get the air out of the line too.
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I'm not sure what a yard hydrant is, but I had a similar issue with my house well pump, it would cycle on and off so much it would shut off when you were in the shower (not good). It turned out there was not enough of a range on the cut in/cut out pressure setting, causing it to cycle until it overheated. We installed a pressure gauge and set the pressure gap wider and it stopped. Hope this helps. What is a yard hydrant anyway?
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A yard hydrant is one of these http://www.northerntool.com/images/p.../108101_lg.jpg Really handy to have out at my farm!
We do have a pressure gauge, and I will ahve to double check and see if its all set up right, but Im pretty sure it is. Everything worked perfect before this hydrant though. And I checked for leaks around the hydrant extensively and its not leaking there.
So far the pressure system kicked in once or twice this morning, and we havent ran the shower, yet!
Im almost thinking there might be more air in the line yet... but Im relly not sure. Our well is also 400 feet from our house, so maybe the distance has something to do with the pressure slightly dropping? Then again the distance didnt seem to matter before.
We do have a pressure gauge, and I will ahve to double check and see if its all set up right, but Im pretty sure it is. Everything worked perfect before this hydrant though. And I checked for leaks around the hydrant extensively and its not leaking there.
So far the pressure system kicked in once or twice this morning, and we havent ran the shower, yet!
Im almost thinking there might be more air in the line yet... but Im relly not sure. Our well is also 400 feet from our house, so maybe the distance has something to do with the pressure slightly dropping? Then again the distance didnt seem to matter before.
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Oh yeah lol. I dont think a fire hydrant would be too good out here haha.
They are pretty handy though hey?
What do you call them? Ive always referred to them as an outside tap myself, but I uess they are really called hydrants.
They are pretty handy though hey?
What do you call them? Ive always referred to them as an outside tap myself, but I uess they are really called hydrants.
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I don't know of an official name, they're just the water spigots that don't freeze, as compared to just a riser with a hose bib on it. I actually have a very old, rusty fire hydrant at my house, a previous owner's idea of yard art I think.
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Sounds like air in the tank.
I had the problem years ago.
I believe most well water tanks have a bladder in the tank.
They have to be bled sometimes to overcome the constant running of the pump.
There should be a valve on the tank top similar to a tire valve.
I don't remember the sequence for bleeding.
I had the problem years ago.
I believe most well water tanks have a bladder in the tank.
They have to be bled sometimes to overcome the constant running of the pump.
There should be a valve on the tank top similar to a tire valve.
I don't remember the sequence for bleeding.
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That's opposite of what I've heard. Those bladder tanks must have air pressure in them. It's because air is compressable, water is not. So without an air cusion in the tank the pressure will drop to cut on instantaneously when you open a tap. And then rise to cut off pressure instantly when you close it.
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Here is a site with all kinds of info on storage/pressure tanks and stuff.
How to restore lost air in a building water pressure tank - private pump and well system do-it-yourself repairs
How to restore lost air in a building water pressure tank - private pump and well system do-it-yourself repairs
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Ive always referred to them as an outside tap myself, but I guess they are really called hydrants.
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My pressure tank -- and the ones I've read about -- have a rubber bladder. The top is filled with air which gets compressed when the pump runs. This air pressure keeps the water flowing until the system gets to the low pressure point -- then the pump runs again.
The bladder can rupture -- when it does, the pump runs way too often. I've had it happen.
I believe that I have also read of a temporary condition. I don't remember much about it. However. it was apparently something that could be corrected. Might have been cause by an air bubble forming in the water portion of your pressure tank -- I'm not sure.
You might try putting an air pressure gauge on the fitting on the top of your pressure tank. Then you could watch it and the water pressure while somebody runs some water. Could tell you something.
Good Luck,
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The bladder can rupture -- when it does, the pump runs way too often. I've had it happen.
I believe that I have also read of a temporary condition. I don't remember much about it. However. it was apparently something that could be corrected. Might have been cause by an air bubble forming in the water portion of your pressure tank -- I'm not sure.
You might try putting an air pressure gauge on the fitting on the top of your pressure tank. Then you could watch it and the water pressure while somebody runs some water. Could tell you something.
Good Luck,
ford2go