You got er, thats the way we like to do it up in canada haha. Beer, hocky and fighting, sounds like my childhood!

 

Heres another question to toss in to you. Have you ever thought about the whole 2010 emissions BS? Sometimes I alsmost think it might be better to skip the 6.4 and wait and see what fords gonna do then.

 

We'll see what's going to happen, but that 6.4 is by far the best diesel I've ever driven. Best of all it's quiet!

Mike

 

I think research is fine too, but if you'd owned an '05+ or researched them more, you'd know that there are many more differences than the '03/'04s. Owning both trucks has afforded me to: live and work with them day-to-day, compare them to each other doing the exact same things, and decide what factors are important to me. For what I do with my truck. Engine and pollution crud aside, there are less differences with the rest of the truck between my '07 and the new '08, that would make me buck up the money and switch. There are greater differences, on the other hand, between my truck and a 7.3...

My old 7.3 went to a friend and has been towed in to the dealer twice since he bought it from me (none on my watch) -- both minor things, aluminum intercooler tube split and water pump failure, but they left him on the side of the road, none the less. I have a number of friends with 6.0s, several with '03s and '04s. None with any mentionable problems, and they tow heavy.

We all have our points of view and how we came to them. It's a good time for us all to go have a beer and discuss our Ford Trucks!

 

The engine is solid and will last. Sure Ford has some dimwitted ideas with the big block: deadheaded (and un-crossconnected) fuel lines, uncrossconnected oil lines, using high pressure oil to actuate the fuel injectors, quick-disconnect fuel lines that suck in a lot of air, poor airbox seal, lots of rubber gaskets that leak in inconvenient places, and other such things. And yes mine is old (and it's one of the last 7.3's off the line in July of 2002), but that made it affordable for me to get my diesel. It may be outdated and underpowered, but at least it's mine. Someday, after all the engine mods to stop the leaks (I think I'm on the HPOP or turbo pedestal one now, I have to get under there and check this weekend to see where it's coming from), I'll get that coilover and radius arm conversion for the front end.

There'll come a day when I have grandkids and they'll come visit grandpa (that will be me in 20 years) and I'll tell them about Grandpa's Moose, my truck that's older than them and is so old it doesn't even have turn signal lights on the rear view mirrors!

We're like Jeep owners. We love our trucks for our own reasons, regardless of how our logic looks to others. An oil leak is just a chance for me sweet talk my wife into letting me order another $300 in parts on the internet and then spend the day in the driveway, hood up and beer in hand, learning something new about my truck and making it just a little bit better than everybody else's in my eyes.

Just like the Valvoline commercials, this is my therapy and what I do to relax.

Both trucks have pro's and con's. It just depends on what you prefer, what you can live with and how deep your pockets are. There's no right or wrong, it's all just opinion. For me, the 7.3 was perfect for me. For you, maybe the 6.0 is the one, or even (dare I say) the 6.4?

Just my .02

 

Good lord, I didnt mean to start a 6.0-7.3 war. I passed on the 04. Im not ready to let go of my old truck yet. Putting 4.88 gears in it. Should make it feel good off the line. If I do look at another F-250 6.0, I will be forwarned. Thanks

 

There are two very passionate camps regarding the last two generations of PSD's. Next time when you light the match you should get farther away before turning around to watch the fireworks!

 

Thats the truth...

 

Actually man, this was a great VS debate, everyone kept their cool, and brought up great pro's and cons of each and every style.

I love my truck, but i would take any diesel. Once you get one, you will love them, whether is a 6.9, 7.3, 6.0, or 6.4.

nd lets not even start in about the good ol 5.9 cummins NOT the dodge haha but the cummins

 

I am starting to hate my 04 6.0! When it's not in the shop I like it but it aint worth the troubles to me anymore! I am on my 3rd EGR valve in the last 5 weeks? What a joke! I would not buy another 6.0, and if someone gave me one free I'd sell the damn thing! 7.3 or switch makes. I say that with much regret but it is what it is! I am going through it right now with my 6.o.....again!

 

It's called an egr delete. It will take you less time, if your handy with welding have are able to weld the dinky light metal, to just do a delete and be done with it. Simple and no fuss.

 

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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Well my friend, the 7.3 tranny is weak, and yes can leave you on the side of the road.
My Dad has an 02 F-250 with the 7.3 and an auto. he has pulled home large farm equipment. ie: a 30ft field cultavator (decently heavy) and a 12/21split row planter ( quite heavy, our planter tractor needed a special drawbar for the planter) and he was hitting 40-50 mph coming back with both and the truck is fine. that combo is a great engine/tranny combo.

 

i'm kind of in the same boat as the originator of this thread.... i want to get a diesel, preferably a 6speed stickshift, not sure about the 6.0 or 7.3, the older 7.3 would be more in my price range, but they are getting to be high mileage. the main things i would want to upgrade would be anything that boosted fuel economy. i plan to tow a 20 foot enclosed car trailer with a vw bug in it, or an open 18 foot trailer, with a vw bug on it.

does 4x4 or 4x2 make a difference in the comparison with the 6 or 7.3 debate. i want a 4x4, but maybe 4x2 would be better in overall economy.

 

Since I last posted in this thread, one of our 04 6.0 ambulances has been out of service at least once with engine problems and has been out of service at least once every week for the last 3 weeks for something.

Once again the 6.0 has lost my vote.

Mike

 

Yes, the 4x2 will get better fuel mileage in either engine, and generally it seems the 6 speeds also get better mileage than either auto option. If you don't need 4x4, maybe just opt for a limited slip rear axle -- or you may not even need that. A 4x2 with a 6 speed should get nice fuel economy and be cheaper to buy.