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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Im just curious where you got this info from, if its from the net, please post a link, I would like to read it!
Wikipedia + Powerstroke
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Ford Power Stroke engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or this.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Wikipedia is kind of a questionable source. It would definatly start to change my opinion about the 6 liter though if, in time, it proves to be accurate.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Wikipedia is kind of a questionable source. It would definatly start to change my opinion about the 6 liter though if, in time, it proves to be accurate.
Sometimes it is questionable, but generally the article will state at the top if it has been reviewed and found to be questionable. I have found it to be quite accurate. How would they come up with a fact like that if it wasn't verifiable. They are not biased and trying to sell 6.0's.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrous
I have found it to be quite accurate. How would they come up with a fact like that if it wasn't verifiable.
Unfortunately, it is still being reviewed by ordinary people. Your assuming that they did an impeccable job reviewing the article and didn't find any flaws. Now they might have missed something either thru sloppy reviewing or it just slipped on by without them realizing it. I'm not saying that happened in that article just something to think about when you start using sources like that that can be easily changed by any joe blow with a computer and an internet connection.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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I had heard that the info on warranty claims on the last of the 7.3s vs. warranty claims on the last of the 6.0 came from Ford. Who else could compile this sort of data without using OASIS??
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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"Right from the get go" is going on 6 model years ago. That hasn't been anyone's problem in many years. As of 2006 the 6.0 motor had the lowest rate of warrantly claims across ALL ford models. Anyone that I know that had the early model issues and had them fixed right doesn't have issues anymore, unlike the 7.3 owners who's trucks are getting OLD. Even an 03 7.3 has a weak transmission if left stock. Transmissions are very expensive.
you would need to find out how much money they lost on the 7.3 for warrantry work then divide byt the numer of 7.3s they made then do the same with the 6.0s and compar ethe percentages since the 7.3 was in production for quite a while compared to the 6.0...
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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....Transmissions are very expensive.

A rebuilt kit can go as low as 1300 rebuilt to stock.

but they cost less than a new turbo and injectors.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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My 4R100 may be expensive to replace or beef up, but when I can get a Lariat diesel 4x4 crew cab for less than $20K, I'll suck up the tranny issue if/when it happens. I've got 160K on the original tranny and it's still going strong. Putting in a Factory Tech Valve Body in a couple of weeks to firm things up and help it last a little longer. When it finally dies I'll sink 4 grand into a John Wood or BTS 4R100 and never look back. But in 15 years I'll still have my 7.3L and it will still be going strong.

Does the 6.0 outpower me: Sure.
Does the 6.0 outtorque me: Yep.
Do I have a late model 7.3L with Powdered Metal Rods: Check.

But I do get 17mpg mixed driving, a nearly bulletproof drivetrain, a 500,000 mile engine and a garbage truck rattle for less than half the price of a new one: Oh yeah!

I didn't buy my rig to put 600hp through it. It's a really big truck that tows really big things and goes over really big hills. It will crawl through the wilderness and explore the desert and anywhere else I want to go off-road. And it will always bring me back. 'Nuff said.

There's something to be said for getting your engine from the medium duty commercial market.

Although I'm jealous of the Torqshift's second overdrive.

Just my .02
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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But I do get 17mpg mixed driving, a nearly bulletproof drivetrain, a 500,000 mile engine and a garbage truck rattle for less than half the price of a new one: Oh yeah!

It will crawl through the wilderness and explore the desert and anywhere else I want to go off-road. And it will always bring me back. 'Nuff said.
Mine can do most of that, can't do the 17mpg but I don't think yours would do that if it weighed as much as mine and had 4.30 gears. Other then that I would be willing to bet mine would do everything else that you said and more.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Yours is an exception tex !

I had a 6.0 for two years and it did me pretty good, injectors were starting to get weak. I traded it off for the 7.3 I have now because I wanted a more solid and reliable powerplant. Something I could put 500,000 miles on. I never fully trusted my 6.0. However, If I could have affored headstuds and an EGR delete and all that good stuff that can make a 6.0 very reliable, I would have kept it. I loved my 6.0 and I love this 7.3, Like said, the torqushift was WAY better. One thing I will never get over was the awesome sound of the 6.0.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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"Right from the get go" is going on 6 model years ago. That hasn't been anyone's problem in many years. As of 2006 the 6.0 motor had the lowest rate of warrantly claims across ALL ford models. Anyone that I know that had the early model issues and had them fixed right doesn't have issues anymore, unlike the 7.3 owners who's trucks are getting OLD. Even an 03 7.3 has a weak transmission if left stock. Transmissions are very expensive.
Wow dude, i didn't mean to insult you. I,m not talking about the model years after the 04, mellow out. All i,m saying its a fact that the 03 04 models with the 6.0 had some problems with thier injectors or wiring harness,s. Also heard that from more than enough ford mech,s. My truck been to the ford dealer for issue,s common with the 7.3, high pressure oil lines, turbo O-rings, ect, i just dealt with it. Yes, we know our trucks have a weak tranny, doesn't hurt my feelings, it,s just a fact and we all accept it.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by a-rod
Yours is an exception tex !
Naaahhhh, mine is just an ordinary 6.0, nothing exceptional about it.

I do think though if the 6.0 had been around as long as the 7.3 then alot of the bugs would have been worked out. There are some stock trucks that are reliable(percentage wise not like the 7.3, but this is also a pretty short production run, not as short as the 6.4 is going to be, but prett short). If you don't have one of the reliable ones then there are 3 things you can fix that would make it reliable: A. headstuds(can use stock gaskets with machined heads and be fine, I did) B. Delete the egr C. Fuel Regulated Return. Do all those and you'll be fine, now I ask you to envision this. The EGR system I believe was one of the bigger things that got the 6.0 a bad rep as that could lead to alot of other bad things, but oh well.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Wow dude, i didn't mean to insult you. I,m not talking about the model years after the 04, mellow out. All i,m saying its a fact that the 03 04 models with the 6.0 had some problems with thier injectors or wiring harness,s. Also heard that from more than enough ford mech,s. My truck been to the ford dealer for issue,s common with the 7.3, high pressure oil lines, turbo O-rings, ect, i just dealt with it. Yes, we know our trucks have a weak tranny, doesn't hurt my feelings, it,s just a fact and we all accept it.
No worries! I wasn't insulted and didn't mean to come off that way if I did. It's just that after 2 years on this forum I'm starting to catch on to the fact that a lot of people are bringing up past issues with the 6.0 like they still exist. Sure an 06 or 07 6.0 will come out of the box with fewer issues than the 03-05's did, but after the older ones are fixed I would bet they would be about the same for reliability. I had the old issues on mine (turbo, egr, injectors, icp etc.) but haven't had a problem in 20,000 miles and that's mostly pulling a 14k fifth wheel since last summer all over the western US and Canada.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Mine can do most of that, can't do the 17mpg but I don't think yours would do that if it weighed as much as mine and had 4.30 gears. Other then that I would be willing to bet mine would do everything else that you said and more.

With all your mods on your truck you better hope it does a little more then a basically stock 7.3 lol.

With all those mods I dont know if you will hit 500k either. Time will tell hey
 
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