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Sounds like you have a heavy duty chain. I would double check the application first and would try to find a set that is same as that which was removed. Before I install something that looks different I need a lot of proof that it is the only way.
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That's kinda what I was thinking. Also Ford says that they can't get replacement water pump bolts. I want to replace all of them since they were so rusted. Any suggestions on how I can find some? Thanks again for all your help. jl
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Hardware Store, I have in my area True Value, Home Depot, stores like that. Should these have the right selection? Don't the bolts have to be of certain strength to be able to be touqued properly?
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Hardware Store, I have in my area True Value, Home Depot, stores like that. Should these have the right selection? Don't the bolts have to be of certain strength to be able to be torqued properly?
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Sometimes you just got to improvise. I have never been able to understand how a company that uses thousands of these bolts every month can't supply us with replacements. My biggest pet peeve is plug wires. They all come with numbers and fit great from the factory. Why can't I get exact replacements numbers and all. Williams hardware supplys me but they are just a small local store. Don't know where their stuff comes from.
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Nitro - Got the timing chain issue resolved. My engine is a late 88 so it has an 89 double roller timing chain. Got that in and I'm starting to reassemble. The Asst. Mgr. at my local AutoZone said to bring to bolts by and she can tell me what type, Class A, to get at a local HW store. I know you're dying to see if I get this thing back together or not so I'll keep you posted. Thanks, jl
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You're right. I sure would hate to think that my input cause someone unnecessary problems.
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Nitro - OK explain this one. When taking things apart I took the 4 bolts off that hold the fan and pully onto the front of the water pump. I placed them in a baggie and labeled them H2o pully. Yesterday I got down to these bolts as the last step to reassembly. Can you believe the bolts for the fan don't fit into the new water pump? It looks like the size is right but the threads are wrong. The ones I have are 5/16 with fine threads. I even tried one with course threads and it doesn't fit either. Now what buddy? I can't take that darn water pump off again. What should I do? jl
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I think you have run into every possible obstacle there is. If SAE course and fine threads don't work is it possible they are metric? Why, I don't know but you could try it. You could also drill out the threads and helicoil them to 5/16 fine thread to match your bolts. This would be a good strong acceptable repair. If you want to do the helicoil and need help with procedure I can talk you thru it.
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Obsticles?, seems to be my middle name with this project. I gave up on the valve cover gaskets just because I was having so much trouble and needed to get this back together before winter hit.
I went to the parts store where I got the water pump lastnight on the way home. I took the original bolts with me and the threaded into the holes just fine. I have no idea what happened but I really didn't want to take the water pump off again and replace it with one that the fan bolts threaded into. I scrounged aroung lastnight and I found a 5/16 bolt that threads into two of the holes smoothly. The other two are tight but that's probably from me messing with them. I'm going to take the bolt to a hardware store and find four that match and are the correct length.
Wish me luck. I've about had it with this. Later jl
I went to the parts store where I got the water pump lastnight on the way home. I took the original bolts with me and the threaded into the holes just fine. I have no idea what happened but I really didn't want to take the water pump off again and replace it with one that the fan bolts threaded into. I scrounged aroung lastnight and I found a 5/16 bolt that threads into two of the holes smoothly. The other two are tight but that's probably from me messing with them. I'm going to take the bolt to a hardware store and find four that match and are the correct length.
Wish me luck. I've about had it with this. Later jl
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Nitro - By now you probably think I am making this crap up but let me asure you I'm not.
Yet another snag!
I pulled the water pump, the holes wouldn't line up with the pully or fan and they were threaded as 8mm metric. I got a new pump and had it on in record time. I had gotten the "strongest bolts" at the local hw store. You can probably guess right. Yep I snapped off the first one of the strongest that I tried to tighten down snuggly. Now, let me say, I am not a big guy and I am well past my prime so I can only figure I have not found the correct "Type" of bolts.
Can you tell me what these bolts and hardness are referred to as? I'm told class 8 or class A. I heed something that is going to take some reasonable amount of torque to tighten them up.
I can't believe I have to pull the timing cover again. I'm getting good at this, espically the breaking bolts part. Any help would be appreciated. I'm one more obsticle away from having this thing towed to a pro. Thanks, jl
Yet another snag!
I pulled the water pump, the holes wouldn't line up with the pully or fan and they were threaded as 8mm metric. I got a new pump and had it on in record time. I had gotten the "strongest bolts" at the local hw store. You can probably guess right. Yep I snapped off the first one of the strongest that I tried to tighten down snuggly. Now, let me say, I am not a big guy and I am well past my prime so I can only figure I have not found the correct "Type" of bolts.
Can you tell me what these bolts and hardness are referred to as? I'm told class 8 or class A. I heed something that is going to take some reasonable amount of torque to tighten them up.
I can't believe I have to pull the timing cover again. I'm getting good at this, espically the breaking bolts part. Any help would be appreciated. I'm one more obsticle away from having this thing towed to a pro. Thanks, jl
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I have noticed great differences in what several different people would call snug. I guess that is why torque wrenches were developed. Grade 8 bolts should be fine. Use a torque wrench. Specks can be found in most manuals. Personally I dont use a torque wrench on waterpumps but over the years I have almost been able to detect a bolt about ready to snap by feel and know when it is time to stop. Is there enough remains to see to get a drill hole in the center of the break for an easy out?