HHO Generator
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Joined: Mar 2005
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I am install the HAFC system on my v10, I am a beliver as I drove my trainers truck and mileage tested it over the weekend training seminar. got 36 miles per gallon dodge 360.
YOu can use this link to view the systems. I hope a link here is ok.
Kurt Annaheim
click on the hafc kit details watch the video and ask me any questions you want. I am expecting double mileage thne adding a PICC kit afterwards and getting up to 100mpg. I have seent he dodge back east at 139mpg. I know you mave not believe, but give me 4 more weeks and I will know first hand. Live in SF bay Area and offer anyone to come by and see.
YOu can use this link to view the systems. I hope a link here is ok.
Kurt Annaheim
click on the hafc kit details watch the video and ask me any questions you want. I am expecting double mileage thne adding a PICC kit afterwards and getting up to 100mpg. I have seent he dodge back east at 139mpg. I know you mave not believe, but give me 4 more weeks and I will know first hand. Live in SF bay Area and offer anyone to come by and see.
139 mpg? ya right, if it was that easy everyone would have done it by now and they would be rich beyond belief. The only way to et 100+ MPG is coasting down hill with the engine off, period.
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Joined: Apr 2000
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From: Central Pennsylvania
I'm very interested in seeing how it goes. I may have been in email contact with you a short time ago.
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I tried one last week on a '99 ZX2. Bull $hizzle...... Hooked it up, was drawing roughly 7 amps and making close to 1.2 L a minute. Started the car and instantly got 4 codes. lean condition, O2 heater out of limits, and 2 MAP codes.
Now its the kid's science fair project.
Now its the kid's science fair project.
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it doesn't matter, you may be able to get the computer to be blind to the amount of hydrogen and oxygen going into the engine but you have to worry about the long term effects of the "water" being introduced into the system. You would need to have stainless valves and seats, oxygen sensors that operate wet with water and exhaust that won't rust. It's a bad idea in all, plus it just causes your alternator to drag more. The only other test I can find was a SOHC escort that the guy claimed got 60+ MPG, he tried to prove it with a 30 mile test.....Not enough.
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it's ok HM. I am convinced as I have been in a test vehicle and seen it all my self. as far as the water in the engine there is no water. and all of the cheap versions of the system on ebay are worthless. Like I said I will do all the confirming as soon as mine is installed and running. And my friends truck running this system for a year now. we tore down and found a perfectly clean inside. no need to change oil every again and motro should last for alot longer time. Be skepitcal all u want. pay the high gas price. and if you are adealer mech than you know that the major car manu. can reprogam the onboard computers right now to get much higher MPG if they want to. BUt they won't sell the cars they need to be profitable. See you at the pump every third tiem I'm there
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it's ok HM. I am convinced as I have been in a test vehicle and seen it all my self. as far as the water in the engine there is no water. and all of the cheap versions of the system on ebay are worthless. Like I said I will do all the confirming as soon as mine is installed and running. And my friends truck running this system for a year now. we tore down and found a perfectly clean inside. no need to change oil every again and motro should last for alot longer time. Be skepitcal all u want. pay the high gas price. and if you are adealer mech than you know that the major car manu. can reprogam the onboard computers right now to get much higher MPG if they want to. BUt they won't sell the cars they need to be profitable. See you at the pump every third tiem I'm thereMost people that have these generators "are" reporting better mileage, but they have also changed thier driving habits to listen for engine noises,resulting in better mileage. Had nothing to do with the HHO.
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Well I now know you are never going to even listen passed your on ignorance, SO be about yourself. and no water can survive from power stroke to exhauxt manifold. ANy just go away. I do not need ignorance here. You have no clue as to what you are talking about. Good bye
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More Turbo
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Well I now know you are never going to even listen passed your on ignorance, SO be about yourself. and no water can survive from power stroke to exhauxt manifold. ANy just go away. I do not need ignorance here. You have no clue as to what you are talking about. Good bye
exhauxt... What the hell is that?
ANy just go away. What the hell is that?
more people... Please start your sentences with a capital letter. 5th grade stuff, really...<O
</Ocompnaies... What the hell is that? Again...<O
</O<O
</OThis is what I was trying to tell you in my earlier post. It’s very, very hard to believe someone who can't follow basic grammar when they type. A mistake here or there is ok but you do it in almost every sentence.<O
</O<O</OMove on to another site that may believe your story…
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Joined: Apr 2000
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From: Central Pennsylvania
You really need to read more into it.... Water is corrosive to hardened valve seats, exhausts and basically everything that isn't stainless steel. O2 sensors do not like water, which is a by product of your HHO generator after the power stroke of the engine, the molecules have re formed into water in the engine..... then into the exhaust......Not good for non-stainless materials. I didn't buy one either, why would anyone do that? You can build it for under $20. just to have it not work. Peddle your crap elsewhere, and stop lying to yourself.
Most people that have these generators "are" reporting better mileage, but they have also changed thier driving habits to listen for engine noises,resulting in better mileage. Had nothing to do with the HHO.
Most people that have these generators "are" reporting better mileage, but they have also changed thier driving habits to listen for engine noises,resulting in better mileage. Had nothing to do with the HHO.
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Any water on any part of untreated metal that isn't stainless will corrode. Not to mention, no vehicle designed to run on gasoline was concieved with this act of idiocy in mind. I have yet to see firm truth, the only test I've seen so far was a guy who did a 31 mile road test and claimed to get 60 mpg.....31 miles isn't near enough to claim that.
the new honda hydrogen car has stainless exhaust, valves, seats and cylinder sleeves. With that in mind, you could imagine even a small amount can accelerate the corrosion process since the parts weren't designed with this "fuel" mind.
the new honda hydrogen car has stainless exhaust, valves, seats and cylinder sleeves. With that in mind, you could imagine even a small amount can accelerate the corrosion process since the parts weren't designed with this "fuel" mind.
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From: Dallas Ga.
If it were so easy to double your gas mileage, due to CAFE standards and such, I do think that ALL of the auto manufacturers would jump all over this thing...................and their not. But, I have an open mind "most of the time anyway", so lets see some sho'nuf proof!
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Any water on any part of untreated metal that isn't stainless will corrode. Not to mention, no vehicle designed to run on gasoline was concieved with this act of idiocy in mind. I have yet to see firm truth, the only test I've seen so far was a guy who did a 31 mile road test and claimed to get 60 mpg.....31 miles isn't near enough to claim that.
the new honda hydrogen car has stainless exhaust, valves, seats and cylinder sleeves. With that in mind, you could imagine even a small amount can accelerate the corrosion process since the parts weren't designed with this "fuel" mind.
the new honda hydrogen car has stainless exhaust, valves, seats and cylinder sleeves. With that in mind, you could imagine even a small amount can accelerate the corrosion process since the parts weren't designed with this "fuel" mind.
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Heavy Metal, I agree that these HHO's on gas motors with these kits that there selling are all junk and a big fricken joke, and i wasn't surprised to hear that you through 4 codes most being lean conditions.
Why? because of common since,
My only problem is with the water stamets, yes water is bad, but guys running Water/meth, use the fine mist of the water (yes i know that they are mixed I'm just explaining what the water does) to cool the intake temps by absorbing the heat and turning to steam, and its claimed that the steam will clean carbon in the cylinders. the meth acts as 120 octane and makes it so the mix will not freeze.
Why? because of common since,
My only problem is with the water stamets, yes water is bad, but guys running Water/meth, use the fine mist of the water (yes i know that they are mixed I'm just explaining what the water does) to cool the intake temps by absorbing the heat and turning to steam, and its claimed that the steam will clean carbon in the cylinders. the meth acts as 120 octane and makes it so the mix will not freeze.