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Old May 1, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Adjustable Rockers Question ...

I just picked up a bunch of 428 stuff on eBay that included a set of Adjustable Rockers ...

While inspecting them I noticed that (1) Rocker Shaft Stand has a 2.5" long Tube coming out at an angle with a very small hole at the bottom ... Only one Stand has this small Tube ...

Anybody out there who can enlighten me as to the reason for this Tube and which Head (right or left) it should be installed on ... ?
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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thats a new one on me.. got a pict?
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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I believe it's a Y block stand. They had one stand on each side with a oil tube for return (me tinks) to the lifter valley. Is there a number on the stand??
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Definitely NOT a Y-Block Stand ...

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I believe it's a Y block stand. They had one stand on each side with a oil tube for return (me tinks) to the lifter valley. Is there a number on the stand??
I just looked at a picture of the Y-Block Rocker Assemblies you speak of and it is NOT like that ...

I'll try to get a Picture of it tomorrow ...
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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I wonder if it's from a Lincoln/Mercury Y-block, 317,341,368 ci displacements. The blocks on these motors had the same bore spacing as an Fe and the overall length of the rocker arms shaft assembly is similar to a Fe's as well. We'll see once the picture is uploaded. These motors are pretty neat too with a steel block and crankshaft. My friend is rebuilding a 368 to put into a "32 ford pickup, had the crankshaft tested and wound up with a tensile strength greater than that of a light duty cummins diesel crank.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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I read the FAQ pertinent to attaching files (pictures), but still can't figure out how to do it ...

These Rocker Assemblies look just like the non-adjustables from the 410, so I don't see how they can be from a different type engine.

This is the link to the eBay auction I won ... eBay Motors: 428 COBRA JET MISC ENGINE PIECES LIFTERS PUSHRODS CAM (item 300214463169 end time Apr-14-08 18:15:56 PDT)

You cannot see the "Tube" I referred to, but these are certainly for an FE engine.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket

When you want to put one in a post, click on the 4th line under the image. That will copy the web address to your clipboard; paste it in the post. You first see a line of gobbly-gook that begins and ends with [IMG]. When you post, the image appears.

Could be some sort of oiling mod. Does it look home-brewed? Years ago I saw a Y-block that someone plumbed real special. Copper tubing from low on the block (I think) and through the valve covers...reeeeeaaaaaalllllllll special. LOL
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OldFordRacer
I read the FAQ pertinent to attaching files (pictures), but still can't figure out how to do it ...

These Rocker Assemblies look just like the non-adjustables from the 410, so I don't see how they can be from a different type engine.

This is the link to the eBay auction I won ... eBay Motors: 428 COBRA JET MISC ENGINE PIECES LIFTERS PUSHRODS CAM (item 300214463169 end time Apr-14-08 18:15:56 PDT)

You cannot see the "Tube" I referred to, but these are certainly for an FE engine.
428CJs used the same valve train as a 410 or any other FE with a hydrauliic cam. The "Y" blocks often had an external oiler for the rockers, at least my 285 horse 312 did, due to the stock system not supplying enough oil. There are no tubes coming off FE rockers.
 
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Originally Posted by OldFordRacer
I just looked at a picture of the Y-Block Rocker Assemblies you speak of and it is NOT like that ...

I'll try to get a Picture of it tomorrow ...

What is the number off it then???
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FFR428
What is the number off it then???
There prolly isn't a number on it.

A picture sez a 1000 words, the parts catalog sez it all.

8) C2AZ-6531-B .. Support-Valve Rocker Arm Shaft

Fits: All FE engines, 1958/76

Fits: All FT engines, 1964/78.

I looked at every OHV support from 1952 thru 1979, only the Y blocks use the oiler tube.
 
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Could be some sort of oiling mod. Does it look home-brewed? Years ago I saw a Y-block that someone plumbed real special. Copper tubing from low on the block (I think) and through the valve covers...reeeeeaaaaaalllllllll special. LOL
Dude you totally should have asked permission to use a pict of my truck for online viewing purposes LMAO!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There prolly isn't a number on it.

A picture sez a 1000 words, the parts catalog sez it all.

8) C2AZ-6531-B .. Support-Valve Rocker Arm Shaft

Fits: All FE engines, 1958/76

Fits: All FT engines, 1964/78.

I looked at every OHV support from 1952 thru 1979, only the Y blocks use the oiler tube.

I have had aluminum stands with a B9 number. And the LR and MR iron stands I have both have a C2 and C5 casting number on them. So that's why I questioned if there was a number. I'm not knowledgeable on the Y block stuff but I agree those are the only stand I know of with the oil tube in em. Could even be an aftermarket stand of some kind who knows?? I remember seeing a pic somewhere of tubes in the stands. But can't place it and thought it might be a early FE 58 only deal?? Or it's Y block only and I'm just confused which is very possible as well!!! LOL!!!
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FFR428
I have had aluminum stands with a B9 number. And the LR and MR iron stands I have both have a C2 and C5 casting number on them. So that's why I questioned if there was a number. I'm not knowledgeable on the Y block stuff but I agree those are the only stand I know of with the oil tube in em. Could even be an aftermarket stand of some kind who knows?? I remember seeing a pic somewhere of tubes in the stands. But can't place it and thought it might be a early FE 58 only deal?? Or it's Y block only and I'm just confused which is very possible as well!!! LOL!!!
When I saw the 1962 part number (C2AZ-6531-B) in the 1949/59 car parts catalog (printed:1964), I did some digging to see if I could find the original 1958 p/n.

All I could find was: C2AZ-6531-B replaced C2AZ-6531-A.

This morning after my brain kicked in, I remembered I had another source.

B8A-6531-B replaced by B9AE-6531-A replaced by C2AZ-6531-A replaced by C2AZ-6531-B.

Ford updates 1000's of part numbers a year...y'all have no idea what a PITA that is.

btw: The parts catalog illustrations does not show an FE support with a tube...I looked at every D support for every engine Ford used from 1952 thru 1979.

Only the Y's had that tube....and....Ford used the same illustrations for years.

Hell, look in the 1990's catalog for brake parts, the rear brake drum diagram is from 1961!
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Very good to know. Thanks for setting me straight on that. I can understand the part number changes. That alone would make you nuts to sort out. Being in the printing bizz I deal with that as well on a somewhat smaller basis. Presses from Japan, Germany, Sweden with translation and language errors. Not to mention part number errors, updates, revisions and changes!!! LOL I can appreciate the madness!! LOL.

Well maybe this guy can post a pic in his gallery to see what he has.
 
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Picture of FE Rocker Stand w/Tube ...

Check this out and tell me if you have ever seen anything like it on an FE Rocker Assembly ...
 
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