Question on Traction?
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Question on Traction?
first let me say I know the power is there, but.. it spins it is a base model no 4 wheel drive, so I know there will be limitations, but I think it might just be tire selection or the weight or lack thereof in the bed.
I got my tractor stuck digging out beaver dams, just the front end of it.
chained my ole truck to it made it jump a few times (tractor) but could not get it moved, ground was dry, but I spun so much it was unreal.
The question: if I get a tire with a more agressive tread will this help a little more?
I have no doubt about the power but just the bite into the surface is off for my tatse, I also have a 6 degree sloped drive and when pulling the tractor I do feel just a little slip, not much I checked to make sure it wasn't gears or trans prob, its not, tires have plenty of tread, I think they are just street tires.
thanks sorry i was long winded
I got my tractor stuck digging out beaver dams, just the front end of it.
chained my ole truck to it made it jump a few times (tractor) but could not get it moved, ground was dry, but I spun so much it was unreal.
The question: if I get a tire with a more agressive tread will this help a little more?
I have no doubt about the power but just the bite into the surface is off for my tatse, I also have a 6 degree sloped drive and when pulling the tractor I do feel just a little slip, not much I checked to make sure it wasn't gears or trans prob, its not, tires have plenty of tread, I think they are just street tires.
thanks sorry i was long winded
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More agressive tread will help some. Also a limited slip or locker will help. But as far as getting weight in the back.... There was a product out not too long ago that was a large square bag that you put in the bed and filled with water. It was very slick if I do say so. But I can't for the life of me remember what the name of it was.
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Well, that's what flew off the top of my head. No offense taken. Other than, weight, or agressive tires, it's time for 4x4.
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ha ha
I figured I would just say what flew off the top of my head too, sorry that does kind of sound abrasive, I was just thinking of something quick, ya know
I suppose I could have said that in the original post, but by being a pain I meant the strapping it down, filling it, and then doin whatever.
I can sound crass at times
believe me the 4x4 part is being heavily considered, just gotta run it by the boss (wife) and justify it the right way
I figured I would just say what flew off the top of my head too, sorry that does kind of sound abrasive, I was just thinking of something quick, ya know
I suppose I could have said that in the original post, but by being a pain I meant the strapping it down, filling it, and then doin whatever.
I can sound crass at times
believe me the 4x4 part is being heavily considered, just gotta run it by the boss (wife) and justify it the right way
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Cody: Just rippin up the form a bit before bed 
(getting up in 6 hrs...)
F700: Yea it would probably be a pain, but with 4x2, going to need to consider a few things: Open diff means 1 wheel gets traction... not the best thing if you need some traction. Aggressive tires will help, however you need weight on them to be affective... catch my drift?
-Robb
(getting up in 6 hrs...)F700: Yea it would probably be a pain, but with 4x2, going to need to consider a few things: Open diff means 1 wheel gets traction... not the best thing if you need some traction. Aggressive tires will help, however you need weight on them to be affective... catch my drift?
-Robb
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I got ya, after it was mentioned, I actually considered my rain barrels in back of the truck, 50 gallons each got four available, put em in fill them, wow a lotta work either way, I think this put the right way could justify the expenditure, if not resort to what I did when I needed a new tractor............(BEG)
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around here in the winter time menards carrys sand bags that are the the with of a truck bed and something like 75 lbs a piece they dont normaly have them on display in the summer but you could go in and ask them if they can get some for you
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I had a 2wd at one time and now I have a 4x4. No matter what you do nothing will compare to the 4x4 for sure. The only other thing I can think of woud be getting a bigger strap to get a longer run at it
lol but I wouldnt recomened that. The truck my not like it.
lol but I wouldnt recomened that. The truck my not like it.
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Ya, for a quick physics lesson,think of it this way-
traction is basically just friction
(friction)=(Weight)*(Frictional coefficient)
Adding weight will be the biggest help short of 4x4.
Meaty tires will increase your F C, but maybe five percent.
Open diff means as soon as one tire loses traction, you're pullin with half the force, because theres only half the weight. look into a locker.
4x4 would help with the weight problem (1000 lb engine over front tires) and with the differential problem( 3 tires spinning b/c fronts usually wont slip on dry ground)
Good luck!
The only other option i can think of would be a ******-block setup if you have anchor points.
traction is basically just friction
(friction)=(Weight)*(Frictional coefficient)
Adding weight will be the biggest help short of 4x4.
Meaty tires will increase your F C, but maybe five percent.
Open diff means as soon as one tire loses traction, you're pullin with half the force, because theres only half the weight. look into a locker.
4x4 would help with the weight problem (1000 lb engine over front tires) and with the differential problem( 3 tires spinning b/c fronts usually wont slip on dry ground)
Good luck!
The only other option i can think of would be a ******-block setup if you have anchor points.
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Haha I like it! Basically the same exact thing as from physics book:
F<sub>r</sub> = μN
F<sub>r</sub> is the resistive force of friction
μ is the coefficient of friction for the two surfaces (Greek letter "mu")
N is the normal or perpendicular force pushing the two objects together
μN is μ times N
Ok enough physics for one day... Time for some chemistry!
-Robb
F<sub>r</sub> = μN
F<sub>r</sub> is the resistive force of friction
μ is the coefficient of friction for the two surfaces (Greek letter "mu")
N is the normal or perpendicular force pushing the two objects together
μN is μ times N
Ok enough physics for one day... Time for some chemistry!
-Robb