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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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F100 Hd?

I have a 65 F100 short bed that looks like it has some kind of HD package on it. It looks like it has a Dana 44 under it and has coil springs on top of the leaf springs. Also it has a factory appearing tool box on the side. I haven't seen too many short beds with the toolbox. Is my truck some kind of special truck or someone's backyard mod's?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 65f100_352
I have a 65 F100 short bed that looks like it has some kind of HD package on it. It looks like it has a Dana 44 under it and has coil springs on top of the leaf springs. Also it has a factory appearing tool box on the side. I haven't seen too many short beds with the toolbox. Is my truck some kind of special truck or someone's backyard mod's?
To me it sounds like "someone's backyard mod's". All 65 4x4 had leaf springs and the 66 F-100 4x4 had coil springs like they did up till 79 with the mono beam axle.

I can not say on the tool box, post some pictures so we can see what your pickup looks like.

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Tool box was an accessory available through the purchasing dealer. The short bed ones are really, really rare.....

The Dana/ Spicer is the optional rear you received when ordering a limited slip type differential.

Look at the coils. The base should be aluminum casting with superior on them black or red spring held on bay a common muffler type clamp. Common weight add on back in the day. Just chucked a set in the trash along with some coil over helper shocks under a 63 Uni.

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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1964/66 tool boxes 1967/72

Originally Posted by garbz2
Tool box was an accessory available through the purchasing dealer. The short bed ones are really, really rare.....Garbz
Tool boxes came two ways:

Factory installed, or they could be purchased at the parts counter, and installed by the dealers body shop.

There are two dealer installed kits for 1964/66 and two more for 1967/72.

These kits come up on ebay once it a while, so make sure you get the right one.

1964/66

C4TZ-9946132-A .. Short Bed Tool box Kit

C4TZ-9946132-B .. Long Bed Tool Box Kit
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1967/72

C7TZ-9946132-A .. Long Bed Tool Box Kit

C7TZ-9946132-B .. Short Bed Tool Box Kit
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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I just sold a 65 F100 SWB Custom Cab with the little side tool box. I was under the assumption that the Dana 44 was the lighter duty rear end, I wouldn't think it would be part of a HD package.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jhooch
I just sold a 65 F100 SWB Custom Cab with the little side tool box. I was under the assumption that the Dana 44 was the lighter duty rear end, I wouldn't think it would be part of a HD package.
What does a H/D package have to do with a tool box?

These boxes could be ordered for any 1964/72 Styleside (except 1964/65 F100/250's with 4WD, 1966 F250's w/4WD, or 1964/66 F350's all of which, when Stylesides, use the older 1957/60 bed).

1959/66: When Limited Slip is present, the rear axle will (usually) be a Spicer-Dana 44.

1967/68, Either the 44 or the Ford 9 inch was used.

The Spicer-Dana 60 was also an option on 1961/66's, and it came either way...with LS or not.

This 60 (actually a 60.2) uses the same wheel pattern as the rest of the F100's: 5 lug, 5.50" bolt circle.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:15 AM
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I will post some pictures tomorrow. I will also get the door tag information from the truck.
BTW, this is a 2wd pickup, sorry, I should of specified.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 65f100_352
I will post some pictures tomorrow. I will also get the door tag information from the truck.
BTW, this is a 2wd pickup, sorry, I should of specified.
Make sure to get the AXLE code off the Warranty Plate, but before you post anything, compare the VIN on the Warranty Plate with the VIN on the registration.

Ppl swapped doors, and forgot to change the Warranty Plate, so don't be too surprised if it doesn't match.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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65f100_352, For what it's worth Steve aka Raleighdad, has a 66 F100 swb with coil springs on the rear. They were on the truck when he got it.

We figured they were after market. He may have found out more about them by now.


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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Ok, I got some pictures, and I was wrong the coil springs were beside the leafs, not on top.
Heres one of the rear end,


A close up of the coils




And one of the door tag



The VIN on the tag matches the VIN on the title.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Any one want to answer my question? Please?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Superior or similar add on coils. Available through Western Auto, and other venues like J.C Witney.

Common to find them on trucks of this era.

The F100 model indicates a standard suspension unit of 5000 GVRW
F101 is for a lower weight rating of 4200#
F102 is for 5000#

625329 is the consecutive build number Built in December of 64

D in the VIN is for 352 V8

R in the Vin is for San Jose assembly plant

A9 indicates a 3,300# axle in 3.54 ratio. (A 3.54 was a Spicer/Dana Ratio with 3.50 being a nine inch ford ratio).

N indicates a 4 speed New Process 435

JM indicates a Red (1515-A) and White (1619-A) 2 tone paint (could be why the DSO 5341 order number)

E Indicates it is Red Woven Plastic and red Vinyal with foam cushion and 81 for conventional cab single axle gas. (a Custom Cab)

DSO indicates 73 Salt Lake City order and order number 5341. This also indicates it was a special order truck.


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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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[quote=NumberDummy;6091708]What does a H/D package have to do with a tool box?

Nothing.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 65f100_352
A9 = Spicer (Dana) 60.2 / 3.54-1 / Limited Slip / 3300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity

Spicer (Dana) 60.2: See post #6, lines 5 & 6.

The Spicer 60.2 was NOT why the truck was a special order. The Spicer 60 was an RPO = Regular Production Order.

Neither was the tu-tone paint scheme. This was an RPO also. **

Since this truck was a special order, FoMoCo most likely installed the coil springs.

The springs look like they were installed by the factory (FoMoCo), it's not the usual "hash job" that off road shops, or camper places did.

Note the coil spring mounts, top & bottom. They were engineered for this truck model, so there were more installed in other trucks of this vintage.

The coil springs and mounts are not listed in the parts catalog.

6 digit DSO = Domestic Special Order.

6 digit DSO: When parts were installed that were not in parts catalogs, and the truck required service to the special parts, the dealer called Ford, and read off the 6 digit DSO.

Ford would look up the 4 digit special order number (5341: last 4 digits), then tell the dealer what parts were special and give them the source the parts came from.

The parts may have come from another Ford model, or been furnished from the aftermarket sector.

Ford still uses this same DSO system today.

** 1515 (Rangoon Red) & 1619 (Wimbledon White) = the Ford basic part number for Touch Up Paint (TUP)

AE60-1515-B .. 1/2 ounce tube with brush / AE60-1515-S .. 5 ounce spray can.

AE60-1619-B or AE60-1619-S .. same info as above.

AE = ACRYLIC ENAMEL

In 1973, Ford replaced the TUP acrylic enamel with acrylic LACQUER for use as touch up paint ONLY.

The TUP part number prefix changed from AE60 to AL81.

All Ford vehicles, car & truck, were painted with acrylic enamel beginning in the late 1950's.
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The first vehicle (car) to be painted with DUCO was the 1924 Oldsmobile.

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Since black varnish dried the quickest, now you know why Henry said "You can have any color, so long as it's black."

EVERY Model T was painted black from 1912 thru 1925.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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That is too cool! So the toolbox may or may not be stock? Where would the Ford # be located on the toolbox? I'm really curious now as to whether the tool box is original or not. Would all this make this a rare truck?
 
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