Question for the Cummins Converted guys
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Question for the Cummins Converted guys
So I'm tossing around the idea of throwing a 12v cummins into my 77 F-250 4x4 and making it my daily driver. I know it's a difficult conversion that can be done I'm just looking for some insight
I'm just curious if anyone has made there conversion a daily driver and what they think of it. I was just looking at how much my 01 has depreciated in the last two years and I'm not diggin it. So I'm thinking of selling it and running the 77 because that won't change much in value not to mention it's a bada$$ truck. Thanks.
I'm just curious if anyone has made there conversion a daily driver and what they think of it. I was just looking at how much my 01 has depreciated in the last two years and I'm not diggin it. So I'm thinking of selling it and running the 77 because that won't change much in value not to mention it's a bada$$ truck. Thanks.
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 2
From: where the deer and antelo
If you can weld and use a torch, it's not too hard, just takes time.
You can buy the engine and parts, but I would buy a whole donor truck. It saved me hundreds of dollars in the little parts you won't get with just an engine. I used the engine and transmission from my donor truck, and sold the parts I didn't need for over half as much as I paid for the truck to start with. There are user galerys here that have a lot of great pictures and information that helped with my install. When I have time I will get my gallery updated with pictures and discriptions. While it's not my daily driver, I've put more miles on it in the last year than I did in the previous 4 years I owned it.
You can buy the engine and parts, but I would buy a whole donor truck. It saved me hundreds of dollars in the little parts you won't get with just an engine. I used the engine and transmission from my donor truck, and sold the parts I didn't need for over half as much as I paid for the truck to start with. There are user galerys here that have a lot of great pictures and information that helped with my install. When I have time I will get my gallery updated with pictures and discriptions. While it's not my daily driver, I've put more miles on it in the last year than I did in the previous 4 years I owned it.
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 225
Likes: 2
From: Richland, MO
I agree with jimlj. If you can fabricate, you can do it. I'm in the process myself. We have one already done, although it's in a '96 F350.(We didn't build it, but it gave me the idea to do mine.) As jimlj said, you'll be far better off to find a complete donor truck to get all the goodies you'll need. If you're doing a complete engine/tranny/transfer swap you'll cut down on your headaches as well.
I'll shut up now, before I become a troll...
I'll shut up now, before I become a troll...
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
I'm not worried about fabrication and installation. I run chevy drivetrains in my ford demo cars. (I would just have to refine the truck more). I've been lurking around here reading everyting I could find on this topic and have a real good idea on what is required to make it work successfully.
What I'm asking about is the practicality of using the truck daily like I use my 01 Powerstroke. In the winter I tow a 6,000lb gooseneck with an 8,000lb skid steer every time it snows. In the summer it's the skid loader and a demo car a few times. I was looking for input on how the useable this conversion would be. Thanks.
What I'm asking about is the practicality of using the truck daily like I use my 01 Powerstroke. In the winter I tow a 6,000lb gooseneck with an 8,000lb skid steer every time it snows. In the summer it's the skid loader and a demo car a few times. I was looking for input on how the useable this conversion would be. Thanks.
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 225
Likes: 2
From: Richland, MO
Practicality depends on your fuel prices. Where I'm at it's near $4 a gallon. There is another option you might consider if you have the resources... Waste Vegetable Oil. If you can spare the cash to buy the processor, and can find a reliable & constant supply of used oil, you're looking at about $1 a gallon finished product, and it has higher cetane rating than petro diesel, can be run 100% straight(with additive for winter of course). Something to consider...
As for the rear brakes, I went with diy4x dot com's conversion kit for the Dana 70. Uses standard '73-'87 chebby 3/4 ton 4WD front calipers and pads. That's as far as I've gotten on the project so far, but I'm getting ready to start back on it in a week or so.
As for the rear brakes, I went with diy4x dot com's conversion kit for the Dana 70. Uses standard '73-'87 chebby 3/4 ton 4WD front calipers and pads. That's as far as I've gotten on the project so far, but I'm getting ready to start back on it in a week or so.
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Well I'm planning on a 5.9 with a 5 speed that should net 18mpg with the 4.10s in the truck and that puts it ahead of my powerstroke so that part should be covered. And I would probably change the gears to 3.73s, better mileage while still having some torque, in time. I was thinking of finding a sterling rearend out of a superduty for 4 wheel disc brakes sometime down the road also.
New User
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: allendale, mi
it is very easy, you can buy adapters and mouter mounts . I have converted my 79 and love it. I have also converted a 02" / 01" / 99" superduty to 5.9's.
if you have any ?'s just ask I will help ya out.
if you have any ?'s just ask I will help ya out.
Trending Topics
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: Washington ,Mo.
You still have good power with 3.55 that is what is in my old Ford and my brothers 93 Dodge and my sons 2000 dodge when we pull the inclosed trailer we are grossing 21.000 to 24.000lb and hhave plenty of tq.with the inline diesels and get better milage.
Dale
Dale
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
That was the original plan but after I buy a manual trans and turbo for the 7.3 I'll be real close to what I'd have into a donor truck with a cummins. And it will require about the same amount of work to put in either engine.
7.3=$1800truck+$500trans+$800 for good turbo totaling $3100
Cummins=$3500 for good donor (I'm patient)
Hey Perky I just looked through your gallery and you don't dick around on anything do you? That truck is awesome.
Thanks to all for your input I appreciate it.
7.3=$1800truck+$500trans+$800 for good turbo totaling $3100
Cummins=$3500 for good donor (I'm patient)
Hey Perky I just looked through your gallery and you don't dick around on anything do you? That truck is awesome.
Thanks to all for your input I appreciate it.
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: Washington ,Mo.
That was the original plan but after I buy a manual trans and turbo for the 7.3 I'll be real close to what I'd have into a donor truck with a cummins. And it will require about the same amount of work to put in either engine.
7.3=$1800truck+$500trans+$800 for good turbo totaling $3100
Cummins=$3500 for good donor (I'm patient)
Hey Perky I just looked through your gallery and you don't dick around on anything do you? That truck is awesome.
Thanks to all for your input I appreciate it.
7.3=$1800truck+$500trans+$800 for good turbo totaling $3100
Cummins=$3500 for good donor (I'm patient)
Hey Perky I just looked through your gallery and you don't dick around on anything do you? That truck is awesome.
Thanks to all for your input I appreciate it.
my brother and I got a 93 4x4wecked and a 96 duelly 2x4 bothe automatics for 1500.00 .just have to keep your eyes open good luck.and have fun.
Dale
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 2
From: where the deer and antelo
To make a daily driver and work it like you plan, I think you will have to upgrade the drive lines and rear axle.
I think you could find a good donor for less than the $3500 you have figured. I paid $1200 for a '89 Dodge W250. It had a brand new NV4500 transmission when I got it. The body was shot, but the Cummins engine was in great shape.
I think the 6.9 and 7.3 are great engines, but the Cummins (IMO) is better. Add that you are putting it in one of the best trucks made (again IMO) and you will have one cool truck.
I think you could find a good donor for less than the $3500 you have figured. I paid $1200 for a '89 Dodge W250. It had a brand new NV4500 transmission when I got it. The body was shot, but the Cummins engine was in great shape.
I think the 6.9 and 7.3 are great engines, but the Cummins (IMO) is better. Add that you are putting it in one of the best trucks made (again IMO) and you will have one cool truck.
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: Washington ,Mo.
the 93 was a w250 and the 96 a 3500was front clip burnt.The 93 motor is ina 1972 chevy c10 2wd and the 96 motor is being built for a super mod 2wd for the DHRA
Dale
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Perky I assumed they were both cummins.