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Originally Posted by LM14
600 Holley on a dual plane intake for a street driven 351W.

Put a BG carb on a dyno and then tell me how good it is. Have seen several Street Demon and Race Demon that hadd a fuel curve jump all over the place. They swing from rich to lean all through the RPM range.

Don't count out the Autolite 4bbl carb (the 4100 sries). Easy to rebuild, easy to tune.

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I can deal with that. Maybe I can find one in a bone yard or on a donor. What is a BG?
 
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Originally Posted by nytling92
For simplicity the Edelbrock comes right out of the box and works and if you do need to tune it a little it is right there and easy to do. At least this has been my experience.
Hey, what a co-incidence, my son calls his 53 F-100 The Big Brown Turd too.
 
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Originally Posted by 9299Fords
Head for the salvage yard and find a 1995? to 2000 Explorer w/302ci. The heads will bolt right up to your 351. They have a GT40 or I believe the 1999 & 2000 have the GT40p. Best heads you'll find without going aftermarket. I heared all about them in the 1992+ forum.

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Hey thanks, good tip. I keep that in mind.
 
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Originally Posted by havi
I have a Ford factory 4bbl intake for 351W. It is stamped with a 1983 and newer casting number. (IIRC) Anyhow, where there's factory 4bbl intakes, there's factory 4bbl carbs. Hit the JY's looking at all the mid eighties trucks and vans. May be the cheapest. I had one on the local Craigslist Holley 650 CFM 4 BBL Carb With A Ford Kickdown $75....might be worth having it shipped.
Yeah, I haven't had a chance to go looking but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
 
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If it was me, for peace of mind I would buy a new or rebuilt Edelbrock 650 (which is just an old carter AFB but you would be very lucky to find one). By the time you find a core, (without worn throttle shafts) then rebuild it and then it might or might not be completely reliable. Just my 2 Cents.
 
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Dave, Havi is right about the years but they need to be trucks and vans with HOs (high outputs) in them. I have an 87 with a factory aluminum 4 bbl intake that I would let go cheap if you have a little patience. I have a couple projects I need to finish before I take it off. This would be coming off the "big brown turd" which is an 87.
 
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Originally Posted by LM14
Don't count out the Autolite 4bbl carb (the 4100 series). Easy to rebuild, easy to tune.SPark
And...was used on 351W engines with 4V's installed in 1969 Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes, Torino's and Montego's. These cars used: C9OZ-9424-B intake manifold.

There was also an aluminum High Riser 351W 4V manifold (C9OZ-9424-E) offered 1969/70 for off highway use only. Good luck finding one.
 
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And...was used on 351W engines with 4V's installed in 1969 Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes, Torino's and Montego's. These cars used: C9OZ-9424-B intake manifold.

There was also an aluminum High Riser 351W 4V manifold (C9OZ-9424-E) offered 1969/70 for off highway use only. Good luck finding one.
OK, OK, stop torturing me with more stuff I'll never find here in Apalachia.
 
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Originally Posted by nytling92
Dave, Havi is right about the years but they need to be trucks and vans with HOs (high outputs) in them. I have an 87 with a factory aluminum 4 bbl intake that I would let go cheap if you have a little patience. I have a couple projects I need to finish before I take it off. This would be coming off the "big brown turd" which is an 87.
OK, define cheap in terms of dollars. I'm interested and probably patience is no issue as I am just collecting and planning. I have committed myself to finishing the Scoobygator and getting it sold before I plunge into the 53. I expect my garage will be occupied for a long time with that one. Out of curiosity, what's the plan for the BBT after you do carb-ectomy?
 
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Dave, I'm going to a wiend intake/edelbrock carb and removing the airpump and related stuff. The factory intake is aluminum and would probably be fine but I have had the wiend for along time and just feel like putting it to use. I got your PM and I'll get back to you soon.

Numberdummy, I have one of those 69 intakes also it has FORD in the casting, I'm probably going to have it polished and hang it on the wall, just because. Also I thought there was a difference in the mustang and fairlane models. If I have the correct # for a mustang I might try to squeese some green out of those purists. I'll get back with you with the part #.
 
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Originally Posted by LM14
600 Holley on a dual plane intake for a street driven 351W.

Put a BG carb on a dyno and then tell me how good it is. Have seen several Street Demon and Race Demon that hadd a fuel curve jump all over the place. They swing from rich to lean all through the RPM range.

Don't count out the Autolite 4bbl carb (the 4100 sries). Easy to rebuild, easy to tune.

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Nothing but bad experiences here with BG carbs. If you must use a carb (not EFI), I would look to the Edelbrock Performer series. Put it on and don't touch it! But why not use the EFI it already has? It is bound to be worth a minimum of 2-3 mpg. And they are very reliable.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
If you must use a carb (not EFI), I would look to the Edelbrock Performer series. Put it on and don't touch it! But why not use the EFI it already has? It is bound to be worth a minimum of 2-3 mpg. And they are very reliable.
It doesn't already have EFI. It's an 83 and it has the two barrel variable venturi carb. Besides that I'm going old school with this and I don't want any more computers or electronics on the engine. Besides that the goal is to stick with the Do It Cheap theme. Buying a new Performer or after market EFI doesn't follow that guideline.
 
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The heads off an Eighty something Lincoln LSC with 5.0 H/O will fit my '79 351W smog motor? Paw in law has one he'll give me..
 
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Yep the heads will work, BUT you have to drill the head bolts out to 1/2" from 7/16" and you'll have to use a 351 W intake. The 302 will NOT work unless you use a spacer. The 351W is wider than the 302. The heads are the same all but the headbolts.
 
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So it IS a viable, low budget, hi-gain net HP increase??
 



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