Seen a ford V10 hydrogen-burning engine today used in a minibus econoline looking bus..I looked under the hood and it was a v10 6.8 in it.. now is this the same engine like the ones in the ex?? they sure look similar.. but they dont use gas... wish i had a camera... can this be a possible alternative engine for us ex owners?? heres what it looked like YouTube - Spotted...Ford Bus Hydrogen Fuel V10

here is some specs i found on the engine..on one website is said it can be mounted in direct replacement of the gas powered v10's hummm..

Technical Specifications

Type: 6.8L SOHC V-10

Manufacturing Location: Engine Manufacturing Development Operations, Beech Daly Technical Center, Dearborn Heights, Mich.

Configuration: 90-degree V-10, cast iron block and aluminum heads with hardened seats

Intake Manifold: Aluminum

Supercharger: 3.3L/rev, twin screw compressor

Exhaust Manifold: Cast stainless steel

Crankshaft: Forged steel

Redline: 5,000 rpm

Throttle Body: Twin 60 mm, electronic

Valvetrain: Hydraulic lash adjusters with roller followers, 2 valves per cylinder

Valve Diameter: Intake: 42.5 mm Exhaust: 34.0 mm

Pistons: High temperature forged aluminum alloy with low-friction coated skirts, ultra low oil consumption piston rings

Connecting Rods: Forged steel

Ignition: Coil -on Plug coils, 9.5 AMP, Iridium tipped spark plugs

Bore x Stroke: 3.55 x 4.16 in / 90.2 x 105.8 mm

Displacement: 415 cu in / 6,751 cc

Compression Ratio: 9.4:1

Horsepower: 235 @ 4000 rpm

Horsepower per Liter: 34.5

Peak Boost: 18-20 psi

Torque: 310 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm

Recommended Fuel: Hydrogen

Fuel Injection: Sequential multiport fuel injection

Oil Capacity: 6 quarts, with filter

Recommended Oil: Castrol Synthetic, 5W-20

 

Videos on Ford V10 Hydrogen

MiniBus
YouTube - Spotted...Ford Bus Hydrogen Fuel V10

F-250 Concept Super Chief
YouTube - Ford F250 Superchief Concept

 

235 hp and 310lb torque hmmmm, I don't think thats gonna get the job done. The 5.4 put out 255hp and 350lb and general consensus is you don't want it.
Kinda cool to think of a v10 hydrogen Ex though...

 

Its a 6.8 with a supercharger.

Hydrogen will burn in any gasoline engine, but needs more volume to run and make power, hence the supercharger.

Need more HP, add a turbo.

 

18-20PSI and that little power? Ford dropped the ball somehow I think lol. Thats REDICULOUSLY low power for that kind of boost. If the regular 2V V10 was built to hold that kind of boost, it would make 7-800HP all day. Hydrogen must need to burn extremely lean compared to the typical gasoline engine.

 

you guys arent paying attention. for only five bucks, i will sell you the plans for my "horney squirrel in a cage" system. it comes complete with a picture of my 'thorpus tube drive system'. when properly hooked up to the dinglefratzer, you can get over 275 mpg

 

The hydrogen powered 2 valve - V10 is very different then it’s gas version. I had the opportunity to talk with the prototype engine calibrators on this project. I was also interested if this engine could run on gas but the modifications to de-rate the engine components and calibrations were extensive.

As you may know straight pure hydrogen has a much lower energy / unit volume then gasoline. Like others on this string have mentioned, this is the reason for the supercharger, forged steel crank and rods. But they sill needed to up the CR and the boost pressure just to get a realistic performance level out put.

The calibrators said if we ran gasoline through this engine it would blow the forged steel connecting rods right out the bottom. Too much energy in gasoline.

 

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That's the problem. A funny looking Austrian scientist said some time ago that E=MC(2) as a basic law of physics down here on Planet Earth. That means it takes ENERGY to move MASS. Sad fact is there is NOTHING that can store as much energy as effectively as gasoline.

Sure electric cars are nice. Plug em in, charge em up, and off you go. But not very far for the simple reason , again - listen up to the above post....we cant store energy in anywhere near the volume, in ANYTHING else, as we can in gasoline.

To get hydrogen into a condition by which it can be used as a fuel, takes a TREMENDOUS amount of energy. Then, when we get the hydrogen, how do we store it? Facilities for distributing it ?

Bottom line - as many of us have noted to the "dreamers"...THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH, AND ALL THE GOOD WISHES AND HOPES OF THE BUNNEY HUGGERS WONT CHANGE THE BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS !

 

Ummmm...diesel fuel contains more energy (BTU's) than gasoline.

 

Here are some numbers, not that it seems to matter much...

Hydrogen BTU Comparison Chart

Or, if you don't want to click the link, I can sum it up:

One gallon of hydrogen contains the same energy as just over
a quart of Gasoline, that is Gasoline has about four times the
energy density of hydrogen. Which makes hydrogen kinda sucky to use
as fuel in a vehicle, since you need to carry four times as much and
carry it under pressure, just to go as far as a simple tank of gasoline...

...this of course is on top of hydrogens many other problems,
which will never be "solved"- as they are fundamental rules of physics.

And yes Diesel has a slightly higher energy density than gasoline,
but I am not sure where that fits in this discussion of gasoline vs.
hydrogen.

john

 

Well, you would need new pistons to lower the compression ratio, then it should do just dandy. 9.0-9.5 should make lotsa power and be blower friendly still with the aluminum heads if the heads will stay down that is lol.

 

Theres a LONG, yet distinguished list of fuels taht store much more power per unit of measurement. It's 6686 though so we will be nice.

 

Right here John.

 

I see. Sorry, Monsta...

john

 

I stand corrected by Monsta. Well..I am tired..so I will sit corrected - he is probablh right - there is probably more..a bit more energy in diesel.

But diesel, as gasoline, comes from dead lizzards ( B - I - G dead lizzards )...and at some time sooner or later, we will run out of the gooey stuff that is left over from dead lizzards. I fear we red-necks have had as much fun with our petro. powered vehicles as we are ever going to have, and the future is going to be more complicated.

This is why I think we should bring back the "way-too-short" mini dress (dosnt ANYONE see the logic in that... ? )