4V Versus 2V - 400M
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Jason
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Here you go (again) headed off for another one of your immature tyrades. Like I said buddy, just because your book doesn't show it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Your ignorance shines through, you can't even see the width difference between a 400 and a Cleveland manifold.
You will get a lot farther here in FTE & life in general when you can finally admit you could be wrong. You made a statement and I proved you wrong, get over it.
Mark
You will get a lot farther here in FTE & life in general when you can finally admit you could be wrong. You made a statement and I proved you wrong, get over it.
Mark
When you post the ID numbers, and they turn out to be from a 400 engine with a 4V carb, then I will admit to being wrong.
The pictured manifold has to be at least 1973, because that was the first year for EGR valves on Fords.
AFAIK, I'm the only FTE member (out of how many?) with Ford passenger car parts catalogs, from any year.
I'm one of roughly 2 dozen or so FTE members who have any truck parts catalogs.
If more ppl on FTE had parts catalogs, there would be less bickering over what Ford did and didn't do.
FTE reputation: You've been a member for 4 years, have 2,742 posts and one green square, compare that reputation with mine.
How much FoMoCo experience do you have?
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I too have the 65-72 Car Parts & Illustration books
I have at least 25 different Ford engine reference books including the High Performance blue printing information on Off Road/Nascar engines.
I can assure anyone that if Ford Created it.. It was cast with numbers and is documented.
The last place in the world I would believe something is true would be
E-Bay
E-Pray
E-Pay
E-Play
There is so much falsification of items on there it is incomprehensible.
I have at least 25 different Ford engine reference books including the High Performance blue printing information on Off Road/Nascar engines.
I can assure anyone that if Ford Created it.. It was cast with numbers and is documented.
The last place in the world I would believe something is true would be
E-Bay
E-Pray
E-Pay
E-Play
There is so much falsification of items on there it is incomprehensible.
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From: NW Kans
not to argue with u, but i also understood that 351m's were available with 4v or 2v, but the 400 was only 2v. my dad ordered his 77 new from the factory with a 4v 351m, and my old highboy had a 400 with what i was told was a 351m 4v cast iron intake. sorry i dont have access to either one right now to try to get casting numbers, but when i can i will dig this thread up and post them.
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LHB, Thank you for posting the numbers later
Sorry, No 351M ever had a Ford OEM 4v intake.
I can post every single reference to these engines if need be.
Remember in 1977-78 the industry was heading towards Dirty Emissions systems not performance.
Only those 212 HP 460's were getting 4v's to keep them Trailer pulling/camper hauling trucks from not rolling back down steep grade mountainous highways.
Sorry, No 351M ever had a Ford OEM 4v intake.
I can post every single reference to these engines if need be.
Remember in 1977-78 the industry was heading towards Dirty Emissions systems not performance.
Only those 212 HP 460's were getting 4v's to keep them Trailer pulling/camper hauling trucks from not rolling back down steep grade mountainous highways.
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From: NW Kans
my opologies to numberdummy, and anyone else i disagreed with. upon closer inspection of my dads 77, i found out that it is actually a 2v. dont know why ive thought it was a 4v for the last 15 years or so but its not. and my 77 highboy does in fact have a 4v intake, but its not factory. it is a streetmaster. i believe it is cast iron but i did not have a magnet with me when i was looking for the part numbers. sorry to take so long but at least the info is on here now.
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