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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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oilbased paint?

i was at my local farm supply store and seen that they have some gallon cans of paint to paint tractors with... it says that it is oil based and can be sprayed...can i use this on my truck with no problems????
 
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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I'm gettin' ready to spray some on my 46. I'll let you know how it holds up in a couple of years. Or you could just try it out.

It seems like decent paint. I've heard that it doesn't hold up under sun all that well, but it seems to work fine on all the old tractors I've seen it on.
Can't beat the price.

Get some old clothes to spray it, and a respirator. It's the stickiest paint i've ever sprayed. Takes a little longer to dry than car paint too, so watch the dust.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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If your expectations are very low, you could probably use it. There is a reason why that is used on implement and machines, you bicycle when your a kid, and why automotive paints are more expensive. Modern automotive finishes use better grade pigments, most being crosslinking urethanes, and uv protection
I think you will probably find out it wont spray with quite the right gloss, a deep gloss like an automotive paint would have, and will dull out and the color fade in a short amount of time. If after you have used it, you want to step up and use a real automotive paint, that implement paint will all have to be all taken back off, and could add considerably to the labor.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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A friend of mine uses the truck and implement paints on his trucks whenever he pants them. The shine only lasts a couple years but for the price its not bad
 
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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I've never really been about the shine anyway.
Besides, my truck is a 46. It was never really shiny to begin with.

It depends on what your expectations are. It's certainly not going to look professionally painted. You can have colors mixed in the implement paint, but you're pretty much limited to tractor colors. It's going to look like implement paint.

I don't get the having to remove the paint before repainting. It's basically enamel. I've painted over it before with no problems (I use the brand that comes with hardener, I've never tried the non hardened variety).
You could test some with automotive grade reducer to see if it melts or bubbles up. I would think a suitable sealer coat would eliminate the problem before putting fresh paint on though.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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I spray painted my truck with rustoleum and and used their clear with good results. However, on my next job, I am looking at Benjamin Moore's industrial line. It comes with hardener and it tintable to any color in their swatch book. Also, it is about $45/gal tinted.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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I would suggest that you go to an automotive paint supply store and buy some enamel paint with the gloss hardener, It should be less than $75 and a descent paint and make sure you use a respirator
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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Really not trying to argue, but I guess it depends on what you are going to use the truck for. I have a real problem doing this to automotive paint, no matter how cheap it is:


It doesn't bother me to do it to hardware paint, though.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
Really not trying to argue, but I guess it depends on what you are going to use the truck for. I have a real problem doing this to automotive paint, no matter how cheap it is:


It doesn't bother me to do it to hardware paint, though.
That paint looks just fine to me. How old is the paint job?
A lot of trucks look better without the shine, IMO.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Hey, it is 4.5 years old. It sits outside everyday since it doesn't fit inside the garage. For what it is, I am pretty happy. It's actually pretty shiny- almost as much as regular automotive paint.
Here's a pic from Martin Luther King day 2008.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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It looks great. Can't wait to get mine finished, so I can finally find out how the implement paint holds up on a truck. It holds up just fine on the tractor. Of course the tractor rarely breaks 15mph.

You've given me hope. Without the clear, it might look similar to the original shine of 1946 paint.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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There's a couple things going on here. First, gloss paint isn't nearly as glossy without clear. Second, while the truck is glossy, it hadn't been washed in about 4 months in that pic. Third, camera trickery. I don't know settings very well, and the white snow on a bright day made the truck look darker than normal.
Here it is after washing. Again, the camera makes it look different.

Here's a pic of the reflection after wetsanding.


Bear in mind, I am not a body guy, so I suck at bondo, paint, and wetsanding, but for what it is, it came out pretty good.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
There's a couple things going on here. First, gloss paint isn't nearly as glossy without clear.
I'm not knockin' your paint. It's just that in 1946 trucks weren't shiny. I'm actually lookin' for the not shiny enamel look. I think what you've ended up with looks pretty close to factory paint in the forties. A lot of people forget that paint wasn't always shiny. Clear coat is a recent development. In my opinion there's nothing weirder than seeing a really shiny forties era pickup truck.

The gloss you have is actually a little more than I want for this truck.

Thanks for all the pics though. I've seen this question come up several times on this, and other, boards. Your truck is a great example of how implement paint can look.

A lot of people aren't looking for the super gloss automotive paint. Some of us just want it to all be the same color. Why buy expensive glossy automotive paint if what we really want is an older enamel look.

Thanks again for all the pics. It really does look great.
Trucks aren't supposed to be shiny. Yours has just enough to still look good.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Fix
I'm not knockin' your paint. It's just that in 1946 trucks weren't shiny. I'm actually lookin' for the not shiny enamel look.automotive paint if what we really want is an older enamel look.
Yeah, I didn't take it that way. I was trying to better illustrate what was going on. I agree with you about gloss. People want that almost "wet" look, but old trucks, especially ones that will be used, look better without too much gloss (in my opinion).

For what you are looking for, I think paint without clear would give the correct sheen. The only thing is that it chalks bad if it sits outside in the sun and doesn't get regular care.

Good luck, and post pics when you get it done.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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I've found that a liberal coat of wax once a year on the tractor keeps the sun damage down. (I know, who waxes a tractor?)

I'm thinking that the once a year wash and wax that my trucks get should keep the sun damage at bay. If not, I could always buff it every few years.
 
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