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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Tow Pig Mods

Looking for some advice
Planning the trip to L fest this August.
Tow pig will be my 94 F350 crew cab.
If I am pulling just my race truck, 94 lightning 408 stroker and vortech no problem.
However a posibility of pulling 2 94 L's in a 3 axle 42 foot enclosed trailer with tool box and tires and jacks ETC. has presented it's self.

Race trucks and tires will weigh in at about 8500 LBS total.
I'm estimating 20,000 LBS

Tow pig as mentioned earlier.

94 F350 Crew cab. 450 EFI. Bone stock 4:10 rearend not LS
Here is where it gets interesting.
7" lift Fresh 16.5 x 35 BFG all terrains.

Looking for thoughts on waking the BB up a bit for the task at hand.

Also thoughts on towing ability. Suspension mods and such.

thanks in advance

Mike
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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I hope your crewcab is a dually.

With 20,000lbs out back you might want to use a 5th-wheel hitch, trailer for the job. Much more stability as compared to a frame hitch.

4:10's are fine, though with 7" of lift you're going to have stability issues for sure.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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I wouldn't cosider anything with a 7" lift and 35's a "tow pig" ...neither of them do anything for your towing ability.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by frederic
I hope your crewcab is a dually.

With 20,000lbs out back you might want to use a 5th-wheel hitch, trailer for the job. Much more stability as compared to a frame hitch.

4:10's are fine, though with 7" of lift you're going to have stability issues for sure.
Forgot to mention
42 footer is a fifth wheel. Not a dually. I bought to tow 1 truck and it already had the lift but was a great price. No with the possibility of towing 2 trucks 1300 miles each way I figured some questions are in order.

Might be time to loose some of that lift.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen 1 driver
7" lift Fresh 16.5 x 35 BFG all terrains.

Looking for thoughts on waking the BB up a bit for the task at hand.
That's simple, put stock size tires back on it. The 35's are putting you final drive ratio all the way back to 3.5:1.. nice for driving around, not so good for towing.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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wow you sound verbatim of a buddy of mine...everything word for word even your name...cept his tow pig is a 94 dually cc stock.LOL I agree with Paul..you put stockers back under it...you'll get the pulling power u need and a lower center of gravity.

JR
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen 1 driver
Forgot to mention
42 footer is a fifth wheel. Not a dually. I bought to tow 1 truck and it already had the lift but was a great price. No with the possibility of towing 2 trucks 1300 miles each way I figured some questions are in order.

Might be time to loose some of that lift.
For towing, I'd say yes. Lose the lift and keep it for later use or whatever.

Towing that much without a dually is quite squirrelly. I've towed 5th wheel before with my SRW crewcab and ended up putting the hitch on another truck and putting the bed back.

It wasn't bad at all on slow, local streets, but on the highway... a slight crosswind sent me all over the place.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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As a former semi driver, I have to chime in. First off, with the lift and the tires, your center of gravity is way too high. The first time you get a major crosswind or go into a turn at any speed, even with a 5th wheel, the load is going to try to push your rig's rear sideways and no amount of steering is going to help. You might as well be on ice.

Paul is correct. Put the stock tires back on to get your gearing back. Even then, with 20k behind you, you can figure on at least 2k and as much as 8k on your rear end depending on conditions and driving style. You can do it but a dual setup would be best. You better have some serious weight rating on the tires.

All in all, not a good idea.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Animalistic
As a former semi driver, I have to chime in. First off, with the lift and the tires, your center of gravity is way too high. The first time you get a major crosswind or go into a turn at any speed, even with a 5th wheel, the load is going to try to push your rig's rear sideways and no amount of steering is going to help. You might as well be on ice.

Paul is correct. Put the stock tires back on to get your gearing back. Even then, with 20k behind you, you can figure on at least 2k and as much as 8k on your rear end depending on conditions and driving style. You can do it but a dual setup would be best. You better have some serious weight rating on the tires.

All in all, not a good idea.
Well since we have left 4 wheeling behind for dragracing it appears time to loose the lift and add DRW. Or sell it as is and start looking for a dually. I have until Aug to figure it out.

Thanks to all for the input

Mike
 
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