Not impressed with 3V V10!!!
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Not impressed with 3V V10!!!
I just test drove a 08 F-250 CC SB V10 with the Torqshift this weekend. Maybe I shouldn't say that I wasn't impressed. I guess I was just expecting more from the motor / tranny combo. I put the pedal to the floor on the on-ramp and felt like I was waiting for something to happen. My 01 F-250 V10 with 4.56s and the SCT excalibur 2 would definately outrun the new V10. Don't get me wrong though. It was a beautiful truck. It rides 10 times better then my pick-up. I don't know if it had 3.73s or what. I just thought that 362HP and 457 FT LBs. of torque would feel more powerful under that Torqshift. I can now see why the V10 seemed like it didn't do so well in that 3/4 ton test between chevy and dodge.
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It did just fine when it came to actually working the trucks. 0-60 unloaded runs really are a poor measure of capability, no matter what you do a 7000lb truck will never be a sports car and even "IF" you could add enough goodies to make one of these a 6 sec 0-60 stop light king, its still slow in comparison to many vehicles on the road.
I'm not knocking it, just saying when it came to towing the V10 began to shine, where the other two were real screamers untill it came to actually working the truck as it was intended. I would've actually like at report on real world conditions such as which held gear better and the overall ability during manuvering and merging with a load, not just flat drag races, it was educational non the less and did prove that more gears make a heck of a difference (as the 6 speed Gm proved) as does the larger engine (as the V10 proved) when it comes to real work.
I'm not knocking it, just saying when it came to towing the V10 began to shine, where the other two were real screamers untill it came to actually working the truck as it was intended. I would've actually like at report on real world conditions such as which held gear better and the overall ability during manuvering and merging with a load, not just flat drag races, it was educational non the less and did prove that more gears make a heck of a difference (as the 6 speed Gm proved) as does the larger engine (as the V10 proved) when it comes to real work.
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Your right. It was just goofy that the F-250 had more HP, way more TQ, lower gears, and it still lost to the Dodge and GM. You have to understand where I'm coming from. I don't haul squat so the only satisfaction I get is the stop light B.S.. But I'm still young and stupid with plenty of time to mature.
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I really think it is all the motors with the 3v. I work for a large water dept and our fleet are all Fords mostly 5.4 3v and it seems like when you punch it they cant get out of there own way not good imo. But all the older 2v motors feel much more responsive. Some say they need to be broken in before you feel the power?
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I thought the same thing on the 08 f250 v 10 I just bought.
It felt like the turbo lag on the 04 f350 diesel I just traded in.
But,...
I wanted to change the muffler to a flowmaster super 44 just to add some noise to it,"I miss the diesel noise".
Installed the muffler, started it to listen to it, shut it off and went in until the next day.
The next day comes and I get in to go and the thing is like a rocket.
Night and day difference, there is no lag at all, I was shocked at the difference.
I never would have believed it if someone told me change the muffler and it completely removes all of that dead pedal turbo lag feeling I had with my diesel and this new truck when I first got it.
Take it for what it's worth but that is my experience.
It felt like the turbo lag on the 04 f350 diesel I just traded in.
But,...
I wanted to change the muffler to a flowmaster super 44 just to add some noise to it,"I miss the diesel noise".
Installed the muffler, started it to listen to it, shut it off and went in until the next day.
The next day comes and I get in to go and the thing is like a rocket.
Night and day difference, there is no lag at all, I was shocked at the difference.
I never would have believed it if someone told me change the muffler and it completely removes all of that dead pedal turbo lag feeling I had with my diesel and this new truck when I first got it.
Take it for what it's worth but that is my experience.
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x2 on the drive by wire, makes them feel slow
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Your right. It was just goofy that the F-250 had more HP, way more TQ, lower gears, and it still lost to the Dodge and GM. You have to understand where I'm coming from. I don't haul squat so the only satisfaction I get is the stop light B.S.. But I'm still young and stupid with plenty of time to mature.
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I have a theory as to why you might not be satisfied with an '08 V10 when you floor it. I have an '05 standard transmission, and believe me, until you get used to it, you really have to pay attention to avoid smoking the tires. So with this background you can see why I was having trouble understanding posters with brand new V10's who said they were having performance "problems". It turns out that the automatic transmissions have a programming that checks to see if one tire is spinning faster than the other, and if so, it cuts back on engine power. My guess its, this is what you are running into when you are talking about full throttle problems, and I think I remember people saying there was a trick you could use to avoid it. Hopefully someone who remembers it can enlighten us.
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made for a very interesting lane change. imo it isnt right.
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5.4 3v
Not a legitamate excuse imo, a truck should move when you smash the peddle. Case in point getting on the freeway coming home from work we vanpool in a e250 Ford van with a 3v 5.4, as i smash the pedal to get into the carpool lane to beat up coming traffic it does nothing, and finally kicks in talk about lag time made for a very interesting lane change. imo it isnt right.
made for a very interesting lane change. imo it isnt right.
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My experience with my '08 is that if you just floor it, it has a lag, that is the computer protecting the trans. But if you mash it about 3/4 of the way and then steadily give it gas, it will surprise you. My truck weighs 9520lbs with me in it and even mashing it about half way this thing shifts perfectly and will outrun my brothers '06 regular cab(mine is a crew cab) v10 with a manual trans, and mine is about 1000lbs heavier. And by the way it's true after about 5,000 miles these things just wake up and the lag is just about gone.
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I would have agreed with you after driving and buying a 05 4x4 Crew cab with 3:73, 3v torqueshift it did feel a little slow, but I bought it (REALLY needed a crewcab for a hunting truck). Still have my 01 2v with 4:30 and flowmaster and superchip tuner and a built trans. So you KNOW a race was going to happen!! After trying 20 mph punches, 60 -90mph runs and from a dead stop, and changing drivers back and forth, the 05 kicked the 01 BUTT. The 05 would smoke the tires hard if you just nailed it so you had to ease into it from a dead stop. I will tell you if you went by the “SEAT-O*PANTS DYNO” the 01 still fells faster but in reality it is defiantly not. I am not saying this is true with all truck but it was the case with these two.