fan clutch source for 78 400
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fan clutch source for 78 400
Does anybody know of a reliable source for a fan clutch for a '78 F-150 with a 400 engine. I have tried several auto parts stores, but they either stop working(don't engage) or they engage at too high of a temperature. The NAPA one I have now engages at 228 degrees. I tested this by covering the radiator and measuring the temp at which it engaged. I have also tried a new old stock motorcraft fan clutch that didn't seem to engage at all. I want to stay with a fan clutch if at all possible.
Also has anybody had any success with "adjusting" the spring on the front of the clutch to change the engaging temp? I currently have a severe duty clutch and the pitch on the fan blades is between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 inches.
Anybody have the same problem?
Also has anybody had any success with "adjusting" the spring on the front of the clutch to change the engaging temp? I currently have a severe duty clutch and the pitch on the fan blades is between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 inches.
Anybody have the same problem?
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Does anybody know of a reliable source for a fan clutch for a '78 F-150 with a 400 engine. I have tried several auto parts stores, but they either stop working(don't engage) or they engage at too high of a temperature. The NAPA one I have now engages at 228 degrees. I tested this by covering the radiator and measuring the temp at which it engaged. I have also tried a new old stock motorcraft fan clutch that didn't seem to engage at all. I want to stay with a fan clutch if at all possible.
There isn't any such thing!
No 400 engine used in 1977/79 F100/350's had a fan clutch = none.
The only fan clutch used was on the companion 351M engine and only when A/C and/or the Trailer Tow Package was present.
No Ford passenger car with either a 351M (1975/79) or 400 engine (1971/79) used a fan clutch = none.
1977/79 F100/350 351M = D4TZ-8A616-A > > replaced by > > E1TZ-8A616-A .. Fan Clutch / Marked: D5TA-CA or EDD5TA-CA / use with A/C and/or Trailer Tow Pkg only.
There is NO Motorcraft part number for this fan clutch.
Bottom line: You have the wrong fan clutch.
What fan are you using with this fan clutch? If genuine Ford, it will have an ID number on it.
D8TZ-8600-A .. Fan-5 Blade / Marked: D8TA-AA / 19 1/2" diameter / 2 5/8" center hole / Application: 1977/79 F100/350 351M / Use with A/C and/or Trailer Tow.
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Bill,
The only number I can find on the fan other than the "ford" insignia is a "TX1". It is a 19 1/2 " diameter fan with a 2 5/8" hole.
The fan clutch was ordered by a ford dealer. I wished I still had it and the motorcraft box that it came in.
What is this engine supposed to have on it, if it didn't come with a fan clutch.
The only number I can find on the fan other than the "ford" insignia is a "TX1". It is a 19 1/2 " diameter fan with a 2 5/8" hole.
The fan clutch was ordered by a ford dealer. I wished I still had it and the motorcraft box that it came in.
What is this engine supposed to have on it, if it didn't come with a fan clutch.
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I have three of these catalogs, they're on Ford microfiche slides and are the exact same catalogs the dealers used: 1979/1981/1988 editions, no part number is listed.
Only the 351M fan clutch part number is listed.
1980/82: Now, that's a different story.
Both the 351M & the 400 engines used in F150/350's have fan clutches listed.
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D7TZ-8600-A .. 5 Blade Fan ~ 18 1/2"
D9TZ-8600-A .. 5 Blade Fan ~ 19 1/2"
That's it!
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Please take the following into consideration.
This was 1978, not 2008.
There were less ppl and therefore less traffic back then.
The Ford warranty period was 2 years, 24,000 miles.
There was no 5 year/50,000 mile power train warranty available, even as an option.
There were several extended warranty plans available, good for an additional 1 or 2 years.
But...the prices for those plans were between $400 and $700 1970's dollars, which seems a trifle today, but was a lotta money back then.
Because of the cost of the extended warranties, very few ppl added one.
Where does Ford get most of their profits from (then and now)?
Vehicle sales? Heck no!
All the auto manufacturers are in the partsbiz, where over 90% of the real profits come from.
If parts don't wear out, Ford profits go down...simple as that.
These vehicles weren't built to last a lifetime. Think "planned obsolescense."
Vehicles back then had an average life span of SEVEN years.
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How come I just pulled an OEM fan clutch off of a 1979 F-150 2wd with an original 400 in it then?
I also own a '78 F-150 with an original fan clutch in it, and it has a 400.
Maybe I am mis-understanding your post.
Anyways, you should consider using the 7 blade AC fan with the YB-427 motorcraft fan clutch, which was offered on the 1980-1982 351M's in the truck. I got mine here:
MOTORCRAFT Part # YB427
It was worth EVERY last penny. The replacement fan clutches from the auto parts stores are total, and utter garbage.
Good luck.
I also own a '78 F-150 with an original fan clutch in it, and it has a 400.
Maybe I am mis-understanding your post.
Anyways, you should consider using the 7 blade AC fan with the YB-427 motorcraft fan clutch, which was offered on the 1980-1982 351M's in the truck. I got mine here:
MOTORCRAFT Part # YB427
It was worth EVERY last penny. The replacement fan clutches from the auto parts stores are total, and utter garbage.
Good luck.
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