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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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hitch all the way,better for the vehicle for safety and perfomance out of your truck.
huh? How does a hitch get you better performance? Provided that you are not overloading the bumper and that it is properly secured I see no reason to not use it. Been there, done that.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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I think he's including in truck performance it's abilty to tow. with the frame hitch you have the ability to make sure the trailer is leveled and that would make the towing smoother and safer.

the step sides I've seen don't have the reinforce 3500/350 bumper ball mount. they are just a class 1 with the regular bumper brackets, no extra frame bracing.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
huh? How does a hitch get you better performance? Provided that you are not overloading the bumper and that it is properly secured I see no reason to not use it. Been there, done that.
easy, loading the boat on the bumper makes the boat lift higher in the front ading more rear end weight on the trailer and makes for an uneven balance of load.

loading on a hitch, the boat is leveled off a little more dispursing the weght evenly throughout the boat making for an easier pull.

been there done that with the same boat, same vehicle, when i added the hitch, i was told that it would be easier to tow, and i found that out the first day i towed it.

has nothing to do if the bumper can hold the weight and tow it. and there is nothing wrong with it. with a hitch it is safer,you do get better mpg and performance as well.

this constitutes most things, im not talking about a 14ft john boat that i could tow with a rope over my shoulder
 
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Wiring?? On a surge system the wiring has NOTHING to do with the brakes. The brakes are fully Hydrualic operated. There is a master cyl. incorperated into the hitch. The problems backing up are caused from weak shocks in the hitch system or backing up too fast. Greg
Survey says...Wrong answer, at least in this century.

Modern surge brake systems have a wire that sends a signal, via the reverse lights, to a solenoid on the coupler that prevents the hydraulic system from engaging when you need to back up.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Survey says...Wrong answer, at least in this century.

Modern surge brake systems have a wire that sends a signal, via the reverse lights, to a solenoid on the coupler that prevents the hydraulic system from engaging when you need to back up.
Some do, some don't
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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None of the half dozen trailers we have gotten in the last year had them. I have never seen it set up like that. I wonder if it is just a RV thing since ours are all commercial / rental? Greg
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gbadgley
None of the half dozen trailers we have gotten in the last year had them. I have never seen it set up like that. I wonder if it is just a RV thing since ours are all commercial / rental? Greg
Boats. Maybe it is because they are, obviously, often driven backwards. My wiring had an issue once and I had a hell of a time trying to back up. I guess if a trailer is light enough you could back up but many boats weigh 7K 8K 10K or more, there would be no way. At 5K I can back mine on level pavement but not on any incline or gravel if the wiring isn't hooked up..
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Im not sure about boats but surge brakes are not legal in some states on trailers rated for 6k pounds or more. Set up correctly surge brakes work awesome but they can be really fussy when it comes to loading the trailer. If they dont have the electric soleniod to stop the tounge from sliding they usually have a pin you can put in to keep the brakes from coming on while backing up.

As for towing on the bumper i personally wouldnt especially after seeing the bumper brackets on my f150 after a few years of pulling the boat/fishhouse.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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So how does that reverse light thing work when you disconnect the lights for landing/launching the boat?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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I dont disconnect them. Some people think it makes some difference but I have never had a problem. I have LED lights so they dont heat up really so no thermal shock. But even with the old one I never had a failure.

Additionally, since ramps are down hill, its a moot point.
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Just wasnted to say thank 's to all of you who replied, and to let you know that everything went sssmmmmmooooootttthhhhhhh, I installed a class 3 hitch that was suggested by you and didn't have any problem's what so ever, couldn't even tell the boat was behind me except for when going up hill, the overdrive would kick off but other than that no problem's. Thank's
 
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