Crankcase problem
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Crankcase problem
I just did the CCV re-route and ran the hose to the back of the truck. I did some pulls on my SCT xtreme race tune and I noticed that I had anti-freeze residue at the end of the hose. This is not good if I have anit-freeze in my crankcase. Also my oil has a dark green color to it.
To add to my issue, I can't get the truck to stop puking on the race tune. The truck had ARP's installed, EGR/EGR cooler replaced, anti-freeze level lowered to recall height, partially clogged radiator replaced, water pump, thermostat all replaced.
The truck still pulls really hard. it ran a 13.5 1/4 mile. Do I have a serious problem ahead of me ?
To add to my issue, I can't get the truck to stop puking on the race tune. The truck had ARP's installed, EGR/EGR cooler replaced, anti-freeze level lowered to recall height, partially clogged radiator replaced, water pump, thermostat all replaced.
The truck still pulls really hard. it ran a 13.5 1/4 mile. Do I have a serious problem ahead of me ?
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Take a sample and send it to Blackstone. For about $20 and a 3 day wait, you will have your answer. They suggest 15-20 minutes of highway driving to heat up the oil and the system before taking a sample (preferably mid-stream during a change). You could probably just catch a sample without running it, but it wouldn't be quite as accurate.
The only other way I know of is to see if your oil level has increased by the dipstick.
The only other way I know of is to see if your oil level has increased by the dipstick.
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How do I get ahold of Blackstone ? Also on your CCV reroute, you say you went to the back of the truck. My heater hose has ups and downs in it as it goes to the back. Is your's straight back without any rise and dips to it ? The end of my hose looks like a little exhaust when the truck is running so I assume the oil will push it's way to the end.
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http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
You can order free test kits by phone or from the web site. I believe, if you have an appropriate container to ship the oil in (if you are in a hurry), they MAY let you ship in your own container - just call them and ask. Also ask them to email you what specific information they need for you to provide so that they can enter you into their system. Or you could order the test kit and, when it comes, it explains everything.
Do not ever tell the post office you are shipping an oil sample. They may refuse and call it a hazardous waste. Their kit includes a sample container; a container to put the sample container into (along with the slip of paper you fill out w/ your information); AND then I put that all in a box and then mail.
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http://www.blackstone-labs.com/redbullet.jpgOil collecting kits are free
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Attention! While the kit is free, the oil analysis costs $22.50. Many labs will charge you for the kit when you order it. We let you keep your money until you send in your oil for analysis.
You can order free test kits by phone or from the web site. I believe, if you have an appropriate container to ship the oil in (if you are in a hurry), they MAY let you ship in your own container - just call them and ask. Also ask them to email you what specific information they need for you to provide so that they can enter you into their system. Or you could order the test kit and, when it comes, it explains everything.
Do not ever tell the post office you are shipping an oil sample. They may refuse and call it a hazardous waste. Their kit includes a sample container; a container to put the sample container into (along with the slip of paper you fill out w/ your information); AND then I put that all in a box and then mail.
Blackstone Laboratories
416 East Pettit Avenue
Fort Wayne IN 46806
Telephone
260/744-2380 (8-5 EST)
Fax
260/745-2200
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/redbullet.jpgOil collecting kits are free
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/redbullet.jpg$22.50 per regular analysis
Attention! While the kit is free, the oil analysis costs $22.50. Many labs will charge you for the kit when you order it. We let you keep your money until you send in your oil for analysis.
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Originally Posted by John Kiernan
How do I get ahold of Blackstone ? Also on your CCV reroute, you say you went to the back of the truck. My heater hose has ups and downs in it as it goes to the back. Is your's straight back without any rise and dips to it ? The end of my hose looks like a little exhaust when the truck is running so I assume the oil will push it's way to the end.
(IIRC) I think what you are referring to is a post where another member ran his ccv vent line all the way to the back end and was asking if it was OK to have up-and-down runs. My opinion (and what I have seen on several Forums) is that this should be done with a continual downward slope - i.e. without any runs upwards that could trap liquid oil and cause backpressure in the crankcase. At the very least, keep it flat. When I was installing mine, and with what I saw of the frame rails, I thought that this should be do-able.
With my filter set-up, it would be very easy in the future to plug the hose to the turbo inlet and vent the filter to atmosphere.
Best of luck with your concern over coolant in the oil. I like Blackstone, but I have used others. I have a list of 5 or 6 alternatives. Please keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by bismic
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
Do not ever tell the post office you are shipping an oil sample. They may refuse and call it a hazardous waste. Their kit includes a sample container; a container to put the sample container into (along with the slip of paper you fill out w/ your information); AND then I put that all in a box and then mail.
Do not ever tell the post office you are shipping an oil sample. They may refuse and call it a hazardous waste. Their kit includes a sample container; a container to put the sample container into (along with the slip of paper you fill out w/ your information); AND then I put that all in a box and then mail.
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If you have antifreeze in your exhaust you either have a head gasket problem or leaking egr cooler no matter what the oil analysis says. Just my opiniom which with $3.75 will get you a Starbucks.
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I did not want any oil drips from an open ended hose. Also, the point in the intake for the ccv vent tube is under a slight vacuum which I feel is better for the crank case.
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I chose not to reintroduce the hot crank case gases back into the turbo inlet, so I ran the line to the end of the truck and installed a breather filter.
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There has to be - perhaps minimal, but still a lower pressure than atmospheric. The intake (before the air filter) is at atmospheric pressure. Any flow will cause pressure loss. By physical laws there is a slight vacuum generated from the pressure drop in the filter and ducting. That is what your filter minder is there for - to not let the pressure drop get too excessive.
It is true, except for the vacuum pump, there is no vacuum "system" on our trucks. That does not mean that a slight vacuum is not present before the turbo inlet (air side).
It is true, except for the vacuum pump, there is no vacuum "system" on our trucks. That does not mean that a slight vacuum is not present before the turbo inlet (air side).